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Posted on 12/4/09 at 2:59 pm to stowns
Oh my
Posted on 12/4/09 at 3:03 pm to TigerWilson88
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Conservatives are usually how should I say..."conservative". That means they are cautious in how they proceed with things ie. investigations.
Ah...you mean like the Bush administrations investigation into claims of WMDs in Iraq? But now I'm doing exactly what you did. Look, here are a few definitions of liberalism:
1. the quality or state of being liberal, as in behavior or attitude.
2. a political or social philosophy advocating the freedom of the individual, parliamentary systems of government, nonviolent modification of political, social, or economic institutions to assure unrestricted development in all spheres of human endeavor, and governmental guarantees of individual rights and civil liberties.
3. (sometimes initial capital letter) the principles and practices of a liberal party in politics.
4. a movement in modern Protestantism that emphasizes freedom from tradition and authority, the adjustment of religious beliefs to scientific conceptions, and the development of spiritual capacities.
Beyond this, it is probably best for us to save all political talk for the poli board.
Posted on 12/4/09 at 3:06 pm to JRish
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JRish
...coooooll.....
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Beyond this, it is probably best for us to save all political talk for the poli board
So why did you post this here?
Posted on 12/4/09 at 3:07 pm to JRish
Get your political bullshite off of this board. Seriously, piss off.
Posted on 12/4/09 at 3:07 pm to stowns
I think the story has a major problem.
The source is identified only as a former player. It's hard to see how being a former player gives him direct access to the following information:
a) That the coach in fact paid the player. (The really important item.)
b) That things became known to the team at a specific time.
He may have HEARD these things, but it's hard to see how he KNOWS these things. That's an enormous difference. If all he has done is hear that things happened, then he's not really a source.
The source is identified only as a former player. It's hard to see how being a former player gives him direct access to the following information:
a) That the coach in fact paid the player. (The really important item.)
b) That things became known to the team at a specific time.
He may have HEARD these things, but it's hard to see how he KNOWS these things. That's an enormous difference. If all he has done is hear that things happened, then he's not really a source.
Posted on 12/4/09 at 3:11 pm to bbolti1
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So why did you post this here?
In response to a few posts by a previous poster, in part of an on going discussion. Feel free to read the entire thread, before you comment to me again.
Posted on 12/4/09 at 3:12 pm to Stewie Griffin
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Get your political bullshite off of this board. Seriously, piss off.
Read the thread to see what I was responding to. Now frick off.
Posted on 12/4/09 at 3:17 pm to JRish
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In response to a few posts by a previous poster, in part of an on going discussion. Feel free to read the entire thread, before you comment to me again.
I did. And still I ask, why did you post this here?
Posted on 12/4/09 at 3:22 pm to bbolti1
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And still I ask, why did you post this here?
Alright, we can go through this.
OP's comment:Dang you Liberal Journalism majors!!!
My response:This has nothing to do with political beliefs. And unless you know this writer personally, she could very well be conservative (many students at LSU are).
OP's response:Conservatives are usually how should I say..."conservative". That means they are cautious in how they proceed with things ie. investigations. Liberals tend to have an "anything goes" attitude which means "oh here's a source let's get it out there and breatk the story first!" You don't usually see "conservative media" You usually see the media referanced as "liberal" media. That's all. Not calling her a liberal just the uncalculated action of a journalist.
Perhaps I should have posted "Liberalism "
How's that?
And now we are discussing my response to that. Which defines liberalism, answering to him, why he should not have described this incident as "liberalism". I was answering a question for the OP. It would probably be prudent to get off my nuts about one post, when my entire interaction with him had to do with the fact that this is not a political matter.
Posted on 12/4/09 at 3:27 pm to LSUinNYC
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LSUinNYC
Are your initials DM? I think I worked with you at the Reveille, but I'm not sure. I worked there for four years in the sports department earlier this decade.
As for the article, I would never publish with an anonymous source, but I don't think the article is completely off base. You know the saying..where there's smoke, there's usually fire.
Posted on 12/4/09 at 3:30 pm to LSUinNYC
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Listen I can guarantee you with about 90 percent assurance that this story is accurate.
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I don't think the editor of the paper would print this on the top of the front page unless the unnamed source provided substantial evidence to back up their claim. It's not all going to be printed, but trust me it's there.
What evidence could he have? He is reported to be a former player. What hard evidence could he have?
Perhaps if they verfied these allegations from multiple sources I would be inclined to print the story, but there is no mention of multiple sources at all. strictly one former player that, "knows a player was paid and th eteam found out after Arky game".
BTW: It is not important when the team found out. It is important when Miles, Alleva and the SEC found out.
Posted on 12/4/09 at 3:33 pm to Ninja Looter
I always thought the Reveille was a pretty good college newspaper when I was a student. That's all it was then, of course - no web and all that.
Posted on 12/4/09 at 3:39 pm to JRish
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JRish
Then you made it one. I'm just sayin' man.
Posted on 12/4/09 at 3:43 pm to bbolti1
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Then you made it one. I'm just sayin' man.
I disagree. Just showing him why his statement didn't work by definition. If you took it as political, I cannot help that.
This post was edited on 12/4/09 at 3:44 pm
Posted on 12/4/09 at 3:48 pm to TigerWilson88
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Conservatives are usually how should I say..."conservative". That means they are cautious in how they proceed with things ie. investigations. Liberals tend to have an "anything goes" attitude which means "oh here's a source let's get it out there and breatk the story first!"
GTFO. Don't take this as me defending The Reveille, but I know for a fact that the majority of the staff is actually pretty conservative, especially the editorial staff.
That aside, this was a very amateurish move by The Reveille to even CONSIDER publishing a story with this much weight using only one ANONYMOUS source. If they want to be taken seriously they can't keep pulling shite like this. They are a big reason why I will be graduating with a journalism degree but going to law school instead.
Posted on 12/4/09 at 3:51 pm to lsu2006
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law school instead
Great, another fricking lawyer.
Posted on 12/4/09 at 3:52 pm to drizztiger
better than another pretentious journalist if you ask me
Posted on 12/4/09 at 3:55 pm to ligerbait
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Rachel Whittaker, sorry, you journalistic career is over.
Before it even started...
Posted on 12/4/09 at 3:55 pm to Books
Well IF it is true, what will this mean for LSU Football??
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