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re: Simplified Offense
Posted on 9/21/10 at 1:17 pm to mt1
Posted on 9/21/10 at 1:17 pm to mt1
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But you have already established that Crowton doesn't know what he is doing. Maybe he and Miles can't evaluate players either
I have provided evidence that Crowton’s offenses have repeatedly failed at the previous places he has been. However, that doesn’t mean he is poor evaluator of talent. He may be incompetent when it comes to coordinating offenses, but he never would have become an offensive coordinator or a head coach to begin with if he were completely incompetent.
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Our offensive production sucks. It is either the qb or the coaches. Pick one and stick with it.
That’s right and in this case it couldn’t be more obvious that it has been due to the ultra conservative play calling, as JJ can only execute the plays that he is given. Now, if his completion rate would be like Heisman candidate Jake Locker of Washington was last week at 20 percent, then yes you could blame it on JJ, but the fact of the matter is JJ hit 71.4 percent of his passes at NC and hit 62.5 percent of his passes against MSU. And regarding the MSU game, even though JJ hit on 62.5 percent of his passes, LSU still ended up with just 264 total yards. Hence, unless you are a mental retard who can’t analyze to save your life, it couldn’t be more obvious that the lack of offensive production is due to the piss poor ultra conservative play calling.
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Posted on 9/21/10 at 1:25 pm to Flamefighter
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Really? What about LaTech? Rattay and Edwards. He had two players and had the best offense in the nation!.
That was years ago. He ran a different offense altogether during that time. However, he is getting a ton of mileage off that false impression, when you look at his record since La Tech, because without fail he had destroyed the offenses at every place he’s been since then.
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I'm not saying JL is the answer either. My point is the coaching staff needs to do a better job at recruiting a QB who can run the system!!!!
But since Crowton coached at Chicago in 1999, there hasn’t been a quarterback, pro or college, that was able to master his sophisticated offense. Now I don’t know if it is a lack of mastery or due to his incredibly ultra conservative play calling, but whatever the case may be, his record of destroying offenses including at LSU is indisputable.
Posted on 9/21/10 at 1:28 pm to Dead Fish
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He does all the time and if you knew your arse from a hole in the ground, you would know it too!
Please reference MULTIPLE examples please. And not to running plays. Teams already stack the box against us.
Posted on 9/21/10 at 1:30 pm to jackson123
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Please reference MULTIPLE examples please. And not to running plays. Teams already stack the box against us.
Please stop feeding the animals in this thread. You've been given multiple examples so move on. No college QB goes up to the LOS and has 100% approval to audible into another play. Not a single one.
Posted on 9/21/10 at 1:32 pm to MightyYat
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Please stop feeding the animals in this thread. You've been given multiple examples so move on. No college QB goes up to the LOS and has 100% approval to audible into another play. Not a single one.
I would settle for five. And you haven't given me anything more than a slant to Randle and a Ridley hand-off (and that would be a run). There's been 3 ballgames and if that's the best Jefferson has, welcome to mediocrity.
Posted on 9/21/10 at 1:32 pm to Dead Fish
Holy shite, you barely insulted me with straight statistics. You feeling ok. How are those completion percentages affected when JJ can't find a receiver and either tucks it and runs or takes a sack? I'm less impressed by his completion percentage given the average yards per pass play. 97, 112, 151 the numbers speak for themselves. No point in arguing with you anymore.
Posted on 9/21/10 at 1:51 pm to mt1
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How are those completion percentages affected when JJ can't find a receiver and either tucks it and runs or takes a sack?
You are talking about the old JJ when he didn’t have an offensive line that could block anyone. Well at least he didn't throw up wounded ducks like those MSU quarterbacks did last Saturday and like JL is famous for doing. Anyway, if you were half way paying attention, you would see he isn’t doing it this year, not even in the Vandy game. Although his offensive line is much improved, his ability to find open receivers is much improved as well. JJ is not the same quarterback he was last season.
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I'm less impressed by his completion percentage given the average yards per pass play. 97, 112, 151 the numbers speak for themselves.
Yeah I agree, unless Crowton takes his finger out of his arse and stops being so overly conservative, then the passing numbers will never improve.
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No point in arguing with you anymore.
I don’t blame you, you are dumb as rocks!
Posted on 9/21/10 at 5:06 pm to jackson123
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Teams already stack the box against us.
That is the best indication of what opposing coaches think of our QB. They have no respect for his ability to get it to all of the 5 star weapons we have. I wish DeadFish was coaching Bama and UF. We could just pound the ball while he sat back in dime packages waiting for his son to play like John Elway.
Posted on 9/21/10 at 5:27 pm to CougarBait
I hate to be put in this position of defending the coaches but here goes. Keep in mind my comments only pertain to the MSU game.
The object of the game is to win. If your qb sucks and you are beating the other team while playing conservative why not take the win and not call on your qb to do things he has shown over and over that he can't do consistently.
We got the W with enough lead to let in Lee for a couple of series. Granted "I" know we will not be able to call games like that and beat really good teams. The coaches know that as well... hopefully.
The object of the game is to win. If your qb sucks and you are beating the other team while playing conservative why not take the win and not call on your qb to do things he has shown over and over that he can't do consistently.
We got the W with enough lead to let in Lee for a couple of series. Granted "I" know we will not be able to call games like that and beat really good teams. The coaches know that as well... hopefully.
Posted on 9/21/10 at 7:15 pm to tigerpawl
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Do you think Nick Saban would have put up with this crap?
Saban would have fired Gary Crowton midway through 2008.
Posted on 9/21/10 at 7:39 pm to jackson123
jj and readings defences wow u might be asking a lot
Posted on 9/21/10 at 7:48 pm to 1dpt56
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jj and readings defences wow u might be asking a lot
Yeah, he sucks at reading defenses in Crowton's system. Just like every other single QB in Crowton's option route system.
In mathematics circles, they call this a "pattern"
Posted on 9/21/10 at 7:59 pm to MightyYat
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You do realize not many college QBs check off plays at the LOS don't you
LSU Football player/Pro told me last year that they almost always broke the huddle with two plays and the QB could check into the secondary call if the defense looked susceptible to it. (Different OC and HC)
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