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re: Stop blaming the coaching staff...
Posted on 11/9/15 at 8:48 am to Prominentwon
Posted on 11/9/15 at 8:48 am to Prominentwon
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Yet, there are tons of people that want to move on from Les Miles. So if that's the case, you're putting Alleva in charge of finding a replacement.
Be careful what you wish for.
Now i do agree with this
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Posted on 11/9/15 at 8:48 am to Salmon
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the point is that sometimes it doesn't matter what the coach does, once the players get on the field, it is on them
and I'm not removing fault from Miles for this game, so don't lose your mind, all I'm saying is that putting all the blame on the coaches for the players lacking execution is kinda dumb
Player accountability doesn't exist here.
Posted on 11/9/15 at 8:48 am to waiting4saturday
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So the players should make the adjustments them selves?
Sometimes the opponent is just better and there's really nothing that can be done. All teams in all sports experience both sides of this.
Posted on 11/9/15 at 8:48 am to Tigerinthehollow
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In fairness we have outplayed bama in 2011 and 2012 and 2014...unfortunately we only won 1 of those.
Most of that is true. But let's not forget that in 2012 we were down 14-3 at half. The 2nd half of that game was the first time all year that we truly unleashed Mettenberger and carved them up the entire 2nd half... until we needed one more first down to ice the game and went back into our turtle shell.
That 2nd half was a thing of beauty. They couldn't cover Landry.
Posted on 11/9/15 at 8:49 am to boxcar willie
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we just don't incorporate it into our offense enough for it to be a smooth functioning part of the offense. Takes time for the QB's and receivers to become comfortable with it and find its rythymn
it was working fine just a few weeks ago
Posted on 11/9/15 at 8:49 am to LSU_Saints_Hornets
That's not true...there were several passes that were thrown poorly with no one close. This started with the first pass of the night and also the first pass of the second half...with BTW was a crucial drive that set the tone for the second half. BH had some good moments but let's not pretend he was sharp..by any means.
Posted on 11/9/15 at 8:49 am to Choupique19
They couldn't cover Dural either
Posted on 11/9/15 at 8:49 am to Tigerinthehollow
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Most said it would come down to him if he could make bama back off LSU could win...
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Most said it would come down to him if he could make bama back off LSU could win...
The simple answer is that our game plan was the same game plan we've had all year. Establish Fournette in the face of a defense designed to stop Fournette. Throwing on 3rd down after Fournette fails to get a 1st down would be the most identifiable characteristic of our passing game. We've had success, but don't kid yourself into thinking we have a highly developed passing game. It is all built off of Fournette. It is what we do, and that was the plan against Bama.
So, if you're going to attribute blame, in my opinion, most should go towards a coaching staff that has failed to beat Bama for 5 years in a row.
Lastly, in the face of a poorly designed passing game built for the sole purpose of complimenting our run game, BH kept us in the game during the first half despite the fact.
Everyone knew our passing game would have to evolve to beat Bama....well most everyone knew.
Posted on 11/9/15 at 8:50 am to Prominentwon
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Yet, there are tons of people that want to move on from Les Miles. So if that's the case, you're putting Alleva in charge of finding a replacement.
Be careful what you wish for.
It would be very unwise to get rid of Miles in an attempt to find a better coach than Nick Saban. We would have a less than 1% chance of stumbling on that guy, if he exists. Further complicating that move... who would want to come to LSU if they would get rid of a guy with Miles' record?
Posted on 11/9/15 at 8:50 am to Weekend Warrior79
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I'm surprised no one has mentioned the clock management with calling in plays. How many times did we see BH in the huddle still looking ta the sideline for the play w/ under 20 second left. Or, with the team at the LOS and the entire offense is turned around at the sideline waiting for the call.
How is a QB suppose to be successful if he is not able to actually see what the defense is going to look like before he has to rush to snap the ball?
I agree it doesn't matter who the QB has been Harris, Jennings, Mett, Jefferson, or Lee the play clock has always been an issue. I wonder if they are sending the plays in via morse code. Like wtf takes so long to get our plays in???
Posted on 11/9/15 at 8:50 am to SabiDojo
But they had Quinn covered on that interception. :(
Posted on 11/9/15 at 8:51 am to Choupique19
They couldn't cover Dupree or dural sat night either....but 1st and 10....2nd and 9...3rd and 8................
Posted on 11/9/15 at 8:51 am to roscoe mike
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There was no method of game planning or preparation that could have offset what occurred on both lines of scrimmage against Bama. It's that simple.
It's not that simple. The Offensive game plan played directly in to Saban's hands. LSU ran right at the strength of Alabama, and in fact one Alabama player said in so many words he knew what LSU was going to run before the ball was snapped. Let that sink in for a while.
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If Bama puts forth that performance on the LOS the rest of the season, they will win it all again.
I can't say this 100% for sure. If another team spreads them out and keeps the defense guessing, and uses its speed to counter, Alabama could certainly lose.
Everyone thought last year Alabama would hammer Ohio State. OSU did not have the talent Alabama did, yet they beat them more soundly than the score indicated.
The bottom line is that this LSU coaching staff, one coach in particular, has an out-dated offensive philosophy that works against maybe 90% of college football teams. But when they line up against very good defensive fronts, it's a disaster.
Posted on 11/9/15 at 8:52 am to Tigerinthehollow
He didn't have time to throw the ball anyway
So it's all irrelevant
So it's all irrelevant
Posted on 11/9/15 at 8:52 am to TheEye
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If we wouldn't have LF7, we would have lost a couple. This staff can recruit, but they're not very sharp on game planning and adjustments.
Ding, Ding, Ding! We have a winner!
Great recruiting staff! Not so good at game-planning and in-game adjustments. Also, suck-arse at developing QB's! It is inexcusable that we don't have any better options at QB than what we have. Harris may eventually get there, but he has got to get better at the short to intermediate passes. Look at most of his passes in the middle of the field in that range and you will see that they are thrown high and put the receiver in a very vulnerable position and they have to make great plays to come down with the ball. Blame it on who you want to for not having that type of QB/leader, but bottom line is, the buck stops at the Head
Coaches' door.
Posted on 11/9/15 at 8:53 am to Tigerinthehollow
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They couldn't cover Dupree or dural sat night either....but 1st and 10....2nd and 9...3rd and 8................
We had the mismatches in the secondary.
Posted on 11/9/15 at 8:57 am to JLFarnsworth
I don't disagree with this. Its frustrating because you KNEW what bama was going to do defensively. You HAD to game plan assuming the traditional run wouldn't work. But BH was way off most of the night. I personally think the stage was still a little big but better than auburn. Hopefully when we see them again in the playoff we will have an appropriate game plan. I'd rather throw deep 3 in a row and hope for one catch...then maybe some success there they back off. People are hating the ol but hell 6 ain't blocking 8 and 9...especially 8 or 9 that are as good as what bama has.
Posted on 11/9/15 at 8:57 am to SabiDojo
Yep....that is what was frustrating. Hopefully we learned.
Posted on 11/9/15 at 8:58 am to Tigerinthehollow
"In fairness we have outplayed bama in 2011 and 2012 and 2014...unfortunately we only won 1 of those."
THIS: Breakdowns at the end of the 2012 and '14 games when we should have made stops kept us from winning those.
We were on the cusp of getting the win last year except for a ref throwing an egregious PF flag on LSU at the 1 yard line. Then we have a kick out of bounds after settling for a field goal and Third and Chivis kicked in.
I will not accept that we were out coached, except for Chavis in those two games. Nor did the players not play as well as Bama.
THIS: Breakdowns at the end of the 2012 and '14 games when we should have made stops kept us from winning those.
We were on the cusp of getting the win last year except for a ref throwing an egregious PF flag on LSU at the 1 yard line. Then we have a kick out of bounds after settling for a field goal and Third and Chivis kicked in.
I will not accept that we were out coached, except for Chavis in those two games. Nor did the players not play as well as Bama.
Posted on 11/9/15 at 8:58 am to roscoe mike
You are just flat out wrong.
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