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re: Stop blaming the coaching staff...
Posted on 11/9/15 at 8:58 am to Tigerinthehollow
Posted on 11/9/15 at 8:58 am to Tigerinthehollow
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That's not true
What's not true.
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there were several passes that were thrown poorly with no one close.
I admitted to this. I thought I clearly said he was under duress and he did was not perfect.
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This started with the first pass of the night and also the first pass of the second half
That was a horrible pass, but Jeter could have attempted to catch that pass he yanked his fricking hand ways like the ball had cooties.
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BH had some good moments but let's not pretend he was sharp..by any means.
Never said he played a perfect game but the fact of the matter is we would have not scored a single point if Harris was not some what effective in that game.
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Posted on 11/9/15 at 8:59 am to LSU_Saints_Hornets
quote:Yes. No touch. I would love for that guy who puts together the compilations to put one together of Harris' throws under 20 yards. Then you can point out the great touch he has.
No touch? His first interception was thrown against Bama. Harris has been by far the best underclassman QB this season in the SEC. If Harris didn't have any touch. We probably wouldn't even scored against Bama.
Posted on 11/9/15 at 9:00 am to Prominentwon
He did at times....I'm a posi-tiger....but he did at times...plus you can roll him out with his mobility....but he was worse throwing when rolling out. BH isn't a statue like mett....use his assets.
Posted on 11/9/15 at 9:01 am to roscoe mike
I completely blame the coaching staff. Their conservatism and excessive caution hurts the confidence of the team, especially the QB. As good as Harris was coming out of Parkway, his development is still infantile. He's a late season sophomore who still makes erratic decisions and very poor short throws. If this is how Cameron develops QB's then it's gonna take a four year starter to achieve competency. Alabama just plugs a new qb in every one or two years and stomps our defense. Every team we play, the QB looks like a five star instead of a fifth string.
The worst thing this staff does is... the same old thing. Most teams would kill us if it weren't for LF7. We are so predictable that we give the opposing defense the win before we kickoff.
Miles is one of the greatest guys to ever Coach in America. He's an outstanding recruiter. He's a horrible game scheme and game day coach. I will say it again, he's barely a top twenty coach. Many coaches in college football would do just as well with this talent.
The worst thing this staff does is... the same old thing. Most teams would kill us if it weren't for LF7. We are so predictable that we give the opposing defense the win before we kickoff.
Miles is one of the greatest guys to ever Coach in America. He's an outstanding recruiter. He's a horrible game scheme and game day coach. I will say it again, he's barely a top twenty coach. Many coaches in college football would do just as well with this talent.
Posted on 11/9/15 at 9:01 am to LSU_Saints_Hornets
quote:It was such a horrible pass that he thought it was intended for someone else.
That was a horrible pass, but Jeter could have attempted to catch that pass he yanked his fricking hand ways like the ball had cooties.
quote:If we had their QB we would have scored more, even if you told him he couldn't run. And he isn't some record breaking thrower.
Never said he played a perfect game but the fact of the matter is we would have not scored a single point if Harris was not some what effective in that game.
Posted on 11/9/15 at 9:03 am to mmcgrath
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Yes. No touch. I would love for that guy who puts together the compilations to put one together of Harris' throws under 20 yards. Then you can point out the great touch he has.
You mean like the touch he had on the pass Dural dropped on that slant route? You are fricking retarded if you expect a kid to be fricking Aaron Rodgers out there. Mett had plenty of touched on the short pass but couldn't throw an accurate deep ball to save his fricking life.
Posted on 11/9/15 at 9:03 am to roscoe mike
lol
Posted on 11/9/15 at 9:03 am to roscoe mike
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If we really had a shitty coaching staff as a whole, we would have lost before Sat night.
Bama is the first good team LSU has played.
Posted on 11/9/15 at 9:04 am to Mohican
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The buck always stops with the coach. Whether it's gameplan, execution, talent, or motivation. That's the coaches job.
That coach can lose out and still average 10 wins a season. But yet he gets zero credit for all his wins.
Posted on 11/9/15 at 9:04 am to Prominentwon
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Prominentwon
Did your change your tune yet till next year that BAMA looks beatable?
Posted on 11/9/15 at 9:04 am to roscoe mike
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There was no method of game planning or preparation that could have offset what occurred on both lines of scrimmage against Bama. It's that simple.
You are nuts. I'm sorry. I've dealt with this for too long. The only people out there who support les miles are the people who like football but don't really understand the tactical chess match that occurs on the field. The rest of us understand this and see that Les has no idea how to play that game and--probably--isn't even aware that it's happening.
We played against a terrific staff with top technicians who understood this and took advantage of it. It happens over and over. We survive most games (i say survive because we never really destroy the upper half of the SEC like we should with our talent) based on talent alone.
Les's style of simply lining up in 2 tight set I formation and "imposing will" is easily beaten by a tactician with similar talent. What we SHOULD have done is play a base set of 4 wide with single back (Fournette). This would have forced Bama out of its conventional 3-4 heavy set into a nickel/dime. That's how Fournette eats.
BTW, this is EXACTLY what Bama did to us. They used formation and scheme to spread us out and allow Henry to eat us alive.
Look at the box here:
Look how easy it is for a decent line to open lanes. Henry ran for 40 yards here. LSU didn't see a box like this the entire night (unless it was 3rd and 15).
This is not rocket science. You have to be able to scheme and formation a defense like Alabama's to move the ball consistently. Instead, we have Les who simply doesn't get it.
He'll always win 80% of his games given talent alone. But, his teams should have 5 national championships (this year included).
Posted on 11/9/15 at 9:04 am to mmcgrath
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That was a horrible pass, but Jeter could have attempted to catch that pass he yanked his fricking hand ways like the ball had cooties.
It was such a horrible pass that he thought it was intended for someone else.
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The pass was thrown to Quinn. Why do you think the guy covering Jeter fell back off of him? He was reading Harris' eyes and his eyes were looking at Quinn. Problem was, Quinn wasn't open either. It was a bad pass by Harris.
Posted on 11/9/15 at 9:05 am to roscoe mike
You do realize the coaches recruit the players... right?
Posted on 11/9/15 at 9:05 am to LSU_Saints_Hornets
Jeter pulled his hand away because he realized the ball wasn't thrown to him...not his fault. Of course had he known the ball was thrown right to the bama player he would have reacted differently.
Do you realize how many deep balls were open. We had huge mismatches there. You keep acting like BH was the only reason we scored and therefore was one of the few bright spots. You have to realize bamas game plan was to make Harris best them therefore we had mismatches in the secondary and big plays to be made....bama gambled that Harris couldn't do it consistently...they were correct. It wasn't rocket science or some genius defensive play calling.
Do you realize how many deep balls were open. We had huge mismatches there. You keep acting like BH was the only reason we scored and therefore was one of the few bright spots. You have to realize bamas game plan was to make Harris best them therefore we had mismatches in the secondary and big plays to be made....bama gambled that Harris couldn't do it consistently...they were correct. It wasn't rocket science or some genius defensive play calling.
Posted on 11/9/15 at 9:06 am to mmcgrath
"but our coach is in love with running QB's."
Yet we don't really run an offense that fits this preference. Probably the biggest ongoing issue with the team: Miles recruits QB's mismatched to what he ultimately wants to do. The best offenses under Miles have utilized pocket passers: Russell, Flynn, Mettenberger. But we seem to go after dual threat QB's anyway.
Yet we don't really run an offense that fits this preference. Probably the biggest ongoing issue with the team: Miles recruits QB's mismatched to what he ultimately wants to do. The best offenses under Miles have utilized pocket passers: Russell, Flynn, Mettenberger. But we seem to go after dual threat QB's anyway.
This post was edited on 11/9/15 at 9:07 am
Posted on 11/9/15 at 9:06 am to mmcgrath
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If we had their QB we would have scored more, even if you told him he couldn't run. And he isn't some record breaking thrower.
Coker did not throw for ONE frickING TOUCHDOWN in this game. Coker is a 23 year old red shirt senior. And has thrown for more interception in one quarter than Harris has thrown all season. Coker couldn't even be out a fricking running back to win the starting qb position last year and this is the guy you rather have over Harris. You are fricking stupid please stop trying to assess qb play.
Posted on 11/9/15 at 9:07 am to Ex-Popcorn
Go ahead and drop your mic, brah.
Posted on 11/9/15 at 9:07 am to Ex-Popcorn
I think miles is a hell of a coach. He is far to stubborn and arrogant though when it comes to his offensive scheme. If 80%+ iscdo easy...why has LSU never done it in the past consistently like miles had....NEVER.
Posted on 11/9/15 at 9:08 am to Ex-Popcorn
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Ex-Popcorn
This is the best post on the rant during Les Miles tenure.
It should be stickied
Posted on 11/9/15 at 9:08 am to Ex-Popcorn
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say survive because we never really destroy the upper half of the SEC like we should with our talent) based on talent alone.
The upper half of the sec recruits just as well as LSU. Look at uga, Auburn, UF. Those teams are just as talented as LSU. To say otherwise means you are a complete moron. If one of the best coaches in college football wasn't in the same division, Miles would have multiple titles. You aren't hiring a coach better than saban.
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