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re: The dust has settled, the smoke has cleared.
Posted on 11/25/09 at 1:04 pm to KappaSwig
Posted on 11/25/09 at 1:04 pm to KappaSwig
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We're talking about a fifth year head coach with a National Championship. There shouldn't be any "learning curve" when it comes to game management.
+1. It's amazing how dumb some of the people out there still are. shite, if you get hired by LSU you should have already had your learning curve at the last school.
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Posted on 11/25/09 at 1:05 pm to graychef
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who's fault is it for bringing in a crappy QB and not developing him into a QB that can compete in the SEC?
one of the dumbest statements that constantly gets posted here.
Posted on 11/25/09 at 1:07 pm to noonan
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one of the dumbest statements that constantly gets posted here.
I will ask: why?
Posted on 11/25/09 at 1:08 pm to GhostofJackson
Jacko Says:
It is that easy huh. I bet you would do great when you get charged by a few linemen.
Those predictable first down carries did wonders. Nothing like a 2 yard gain to get the offense rolling. Did it ever occur to you also that teams didn't stack the line against LSU? The dare to pass plan did well. Screens eh. Yeah. The other teams head coach and DC wouldn't pick up on that. You are so smart.
That simple eh. Sure is easy to be an internet coach.
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First, dont force your two new QBs into throwing passes they cant
It is that easy huh. I bet you would do great when you get charged by a few linemen.
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The ball should have only been thrown about 15 times a game last year and those passes should have been screens and slants across the flat. Second, utilize the senior FB you have.
Those predictable first down carries did wonders. Nothing like a 2 yard gain to get the offense rolling. Did it ever occur to you also that teams didn't stack the line against LSU? The dare to pass plan did well. Screens eh. Yeah. The other teams head coach and DC wouldn't pick up on that. You are so smart.
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like KW trying to get to the edge on a 3 and 1 when we had been raping them up the middle with Johnson. Use the wildcat at least 5 times a game.
That simple eh. Sure is easy to be an internet coach.
This post was edited on 11/25/09 at 1:11 pm
Posted on 11/25/09 at 1:08 pm to GhostofJackson
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+1. It's amazing how dumb some of the people out there still are. shite, if you get hired by LSU you should have already had your learning curve at the last school.
What's really scary is that Les is just now figuring out he needs to put in some of these "controls" to keep screw ups like this from happening. I think what people don't get is that this isn't just some "screw up". Its a total failure to perform your job, a failure that has resulted in a black eye not just for 1 man, but a great team & a great program/school. Unacceptable.
Posted on 11/25/09 at 1:10 pm to graychef
If watching Miles for 5 years has taught me anything about him, its that he is one helluva a stubborn SOB. I am not sure that Miles thinks that major changes are necessary. I haven't seen one comment from him that would indicate that he thinks he needs to make major changes to his staff, despite overwhelming public opinion that he do something about the 106th ranked offense.
The last two seasons have been some of the most difficult games to watch in a decade. Even the wins are not a thing of beauty, except perhaps for Auburn and Ga Tech. Barely getting by against Troy and La Tech ought to show him that drastic changes are required, but I just don't see any sign that Miles has recognized it, or is willing to do anything about it if he has.
The last two seasons have been some of the most difficult games to watch in a decade. Even the wins are not a thing of beauty, except perhaps for Auburn and Ga Tech. Barely getting by against Troy and La Tech ought to show him that drastic changes are required, but I just don't see any sign that Miles has recognized it, or is willing to do anything about it if he has.
Posted on 11/25/09 at 1:11 pm to graychef
because Lee was not the plan last year. he was just the best option after the RP crap.
everybody here was excited about Lee. its not like Miles just went out and found some scrub. but Lee was not supposed to be playing last year.
hindsight is 20/20 is all i am saying. but people keep acting like Miles should have had a different plan.
everybody here was excited about Lee. its not like Miles just went out and found some scrub. but Lee was not supposed to be playing last year.
hindsight is 20/20 is all i am saying. but people keep acting like Miles should have had a different plan.
Posted on 11/25/09 at 1:11 pm to Katy Tiger
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The last two seasons have been some of the most difficult games to watch in a decade. Even the wins are not a thing of beauty, except perhaps for Auburn and Ga Tech. Barely getting by against Troy and La Tech ought to show him that drastic changes are required, but I just don't see any sign that Miles has recognized it, or is willing to do anything about it if he has.
His response is always that it comes down to a handful of plays here and there. We had people who were just a second late hitting this guy, or we were that close from Scott breaking it for a long gain, etc. I don't think he gets it.
Posted on 11/25/09 at 1:13 pm to Katy Tiger
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Barely getting by against Troy and La Tech ought to show him that drastic changes are required
Fired Co-DC's last year against troy, beat LA teach by more than 10 points, and will probably fire crowton not good enough for you?
Posted on 11/25/09 at 1:14 pm to UnclePat76
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UnclePat76
Im sorry that I just showed you a better gameplan than a guy who gets payed 3 mil.
Posted on 11/25/09 at 1:15 pm to ironsides
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LA teach by more than 10 points
Not this year.
Posted on 11/25/09 at 1:15 pm to noonan
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because Lee was not the plan last year. he was just the best option after the RP crap.
While RP's getting booted off the team was RP's fault and the best move for the team, a QB who is on the roster of a top tier program with a redshirt year under his belt, should have better ability to make decisions. While not all the INTs were his fault, he made bad decisions that has continued through this year. Lee moved the ball, but the turnovers killed the team. Freshmen make mistakes, but there has been no progression.
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but Lee was not supposed to be playing last year.
You lost me there. Check with Cincinnati and get back to me. Heisman candidate breaks forearm, insert backup, better numbers.
Posted on 11/25/09 at 1:15 pm to cajun33tiger
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Well, I guarantee he doesn't make the same mistake again at the end of a game, but what new mistake is next?
Here's a dozen:
1. On side kick's to start game
2. Gets a TD to tie and goes for two to break it
3. Forgets which 20 we're at and goes for it on fourth down
4. Spreads our D on 4th and goal from the 1
5. Takes a knee on 4th down to stop the clock
6. Runs the option on every down
7. Takes a knee in our own endzone when up by 1
8. Uses only 10 men on D to confuse the offense
9. Runs the wildcat with no receivers
10. Spikes on 4th down to stop the clock
11. Punts on first down to rest the offense
12. Calls back to back to back timeouts
This post was edited on 11/25/09 at 1:31 pm
Posted on 11/25/09 at 1:15 pm to UnclePat76
I hope youre right. Ive been a big supporter/defender of Miles but after that display of coaching ineptness, I have lost alot of faith in his coaching abilities. I still have hope that he can right the ship, but I am very concerned at the potential downfall of the program. I hope he learns from his mistakes and becomes a better coach for it at the end of the day! 
Posted on 11/25/09 at 1:18 pm to noonan
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noonan
I've agreed with you on more than one occasion, & I do think people have underestimated the impact of the Perilloux fiasco. BUT, its 2 years later & we STILL haven't developed a top-notch QB, nor are we taking steps to do that with the talent we do have. This is a total mismanagement of talent, & is unacceptable.
Posted on 11/25/09 at 1:18 pm to graychef
I was listening to Cris Landry on Fox Sports radio on the Steve Czaban show and he is stationed out of Baton Rouge..."The Czab" asked him is Miles was on the hot seat and he said, paraphrasing, that not this year but certainly next could get a little warm if things dont improve...
Posted on 11/25/09 at 1:20 pm to bellewr
While I agree that there is no chance Miles is gone after the 09 season, there is no way Miles can make it through 2010 if the team performs the way it has recently. And it's not just the wins and losses. It's performance.
Posted on 11/25/09 at 1:21 pm to tigerfan25
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I still have hope that he can right the ship, but I am very concerned at the potential downfall of the program. I hope he learns from his mistakes and becomes a better coach for it at the end of the day!
I had this position before Saturday. I really thought we'd finish 10-2,etc. But, what has soured me is not just the loss at Ole Miss (although we got our butts handed to us in the previous 58 min or so of the game), but the WAY we lost. If we are going to be the type of program we want to be, I'm sorry, but I just don't think the head coach should get "learning curves" in the basics of taking timeouts, managing his own freakin sidelines, calling plays, etc. I'm sorry, but that's just unacceptable. As a professional, if I screwed up something that bad, I can't just say "well i'm still learning from my mistakes". And I;m not paid anywhere NEAR $3.7 million!
Posted on 11/25/09 at 1:21 pm to bellewr
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..."The Czab" asked him is Miles was on the hot seat and he said, paraphrasing, that not this year but certainly next could get a little warm if things dont improve
Sprechen sie duetsch?
Posted on 11/25/09 at 1:23 pm to GhostofJackson
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We should have been 11-2 or 10-3 last year. Dont try to spew that crap over here.
Sounds like you're the one spewing crap. With the defense we had last year, you think we should have been 11-2 or 10-3? I'd call that crap spewing if I've ever heard it.
BTW, Miles made a mistake with the co-defensive coordinator decision, but he fixed that with a solid defensive coordinator hire. I think he will make the right decision with Crowton as well. A good OC will fix most of LSU's issues, period.
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