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re: TJ over Myles change my mind.....

Posted on 10/25/20 at 12:38 pm to
Posted by America1776
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Posted on 10/25/20 at 12:38 pm to
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Here's some more that stand.

Finley got 243 rushing yards. Brennan got 80. LSU gave up 44 points vs State, 24 to South Carolina.

Brennan is 3-0 if the defense plays as well as they did last night, all year.

True or false?


I’m not that interested in hypothetical revisionist history. Our defense is what it is, our o-line and run game are what they are. I want someone that can be successful with what we have. Both Myles and Finley have proven to be just that. One of them is 1-0, the other is 1-2. That’s a fact—not a hypothetical.

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I don’t think Finley could’ve performed any better


I’m glad this was your conclusion after previously giving credit to everyone else on the team in your other posts.
Posted by RealityTiger
Geismar, LA
Member since Jan 2010
20543 posts
Posted on 10/25/20 at 12:38 pm to
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Forgive me if I’m not ready to crown him after one game with a limited offensive gameplan against a mediocre opponent.
Where the frick do y'all keep pulling this point out of your arse? As though South Carolina is a cupcake compared to Mississippi State and Missouri...


It's not like Brennan played Florida and Auburn, and Finley came in and beat the brakes off Southeastern last night. But that's the way y'all sure do like to make it sound when you say that.
Posted by misey94
Member since Jan 2007
33931 posts
Posted on 10/25/20 at 12:40 pm to
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I play Myles if he’s healthy. If he can’t score, I don’t blame it on the o-line it anyone but Myles,


Yep, the O Line blowing blocks and guys dropping balls in the fricking hands have nothing to do with anything, for any QB, right? It’s all on one guy. If this was the case, why did we have so many drops in 2018 with Joe Burrow at QB? Was one of the greatest college QBs of all time not enough by himself?

When the day comes when things don’t go perfectly for Finley, will you bail on him too and go to Johnson as your savior? This entire fanbase did the same with Brandon Harris. Me, I want the best guy for the job until someone else proves beyond a shadow of a doubt they are better. Finley has more to prove and one game vs a mediocre opponent at home isn’t enough to make him the starter. Thankfully, the offensive staff has already spoken and they are smarter than you.
Posted by SidewalkTiger
Midwest, USA
Member since Dec 2019
68777 posts
Posted on 10/25/20 at 12:42 pm to
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Our defense is what it is, our o-line and run game are what they are. 


Well that isnt necessarily true.

All of those facets of the game were much better last night, something Brennan didnt have the benefit of.
Posted by misey94
Member since Jan 2007
33931 posts
Posted on 10/25/20 at 12:44 pm to
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Well that isnt necessarily true. All of those facets of the game were much better last night, something Brennan didnt have the benefit of.


How dare you not limit yourself to the small-minded binary thinking of tRant. It’s not possible for multiple things to be true to various degrees at once.
Posted by America1776
USA
Member since Jul 2010
1537 posts
Posted on 10/25/20 at 12:45 pm to
Lol calm down, dumbo. I said I’d play Myles but feel confident if Finley needed to play.

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Finley has more to prove and one game vs a mediocre opponent at home isn’t enough to make him the starter.


I guess one home loss versus a less than mediocre Mississippi state was enough for Myles to earn your unending loyalty though?
Posted by SidewalkTiger
Midwest, USA
Member since Dec 2019
68777 posts
Posted on 10/25/20 at 12:47 pm to
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I guess one home loss versus a less than mediocre Mississippi state was enough for Myles to earn your unending loyalty though?





Mississippi State is the best defense in the SEC currently.

If our defense is just average in that game, we win.
Posted by SouthernInsanity
Shadows of Death Valley
Member since Nov 2012
26354 posts
Posted on 10/25/20 at 12:48 pm to
The OP is one of those fans that will always look at the next QB to be the savior. And this question will come up again when another good freshman hits the field.

But I'm curious as to what the OP saw TJ do that Myles didn't do? If you want to look at what a freshman did that Myles hadn't, then maybe that RPO by Max fooled everyone.
Posted by America1776
USA
Member since Jul 2010
1537 posts
Posted on 10/25/20 at 12:48 pm to
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Well that isnt necessarily true.


I agree, but I want the player to win the job that wins with what we have—good or bad game. Don’t think that’s too much of a controversial opinion.
Posted by America1776
USA
Member since Jul 2010
1537 posts
Posted on 10/25/20 at 12:50 pm to
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Mississippi State is the best defense in the SEC currently.

If our defense is just average in that game, we win.


Jesus, man. Pimping the Mississippi State defense to make a point for Brennan now? Lofty expectations you’ve got there.
Posted by SidewalkTiger
Midwest, USA
Member since Dec 2019
68777 posts
Posted on 10/25/20 at 12:51 pm to
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I agree, but I want the player to win the job that wins with what we have—good or bad game. Don’t think that’s too much of a controversial opinion.


I agree.

Finley looked very good and we are led to believe that Johnson is pretty good too so the future looks bright.

The running game also looked great, the line played much better, and more receivers were involved in the game.

Hopefully we saw the team take a step forward.
Posted by misey94
Member since Jan 2007
33931 posts
Posted on 10/25/20 at 12:51 pm to
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I guess one home loss versus a less than mediocre Mississippi state was enough for Myles to earn your unending loyalty though?


Check stats. State’s offense sucks balls, but their defense is one of the best in the conference. But that doesn’t fit your narrative. Also, Mizzou held UK to 10 yesterday. UK’s offense is mediocre, but they sure ran the ball down UT’s throat on the road the previous week.

I’m not saying USC is any worse than State or Mizzou. I’m just saying they aren’t better. Also, even with COVID restrictions, playing on the road in the SEC is a different level of pressure. So far, Myles still has been able to generate more passing yardage, more passing TDs and is a much more reliable deep threat. Those are all worth something against the better teams of the SEC.

All that said, if Finley plays next week and puts up 400 yards with multiple TDs, proves he can run more of the playbook, and hits deeper throws consistently, then we have something to talk about. Until then, there isn’t a controversy.

And contrary to the binary thinking on this board, NONE of that is a knock on Finley or his play last night.
This post was edited on 10/25/20 at 12:53 pm
Posted by misey94
Member since Jan 2007
33931 posts
Posted on 10/25/20 at 12:53 pm to
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Jesus, man. Pimping the Mississippi State defense to make a point for Brennan now? Lofty expectations you’ve got there.


Rant translation- “I don’t give a shite about stats if they don’t fit my chosen narrative.”
Posted by chaso
clinton ms.
Member since Aug 2006
3243 posts
Posted on 10/25/20 at 12:57 pm to
To whoever said no accuracy over 20 yds. WTF you go to the bathroom alot
Posted by RealityTiger
Geismar, LA
Member since Jan 2010
20543 posts
Posted on 10/25/20 at 12:59 pm to
So we take a snapshot of the current defensive statistics and make that as though it's the exclamation point on your argument.

So if me and Tiger Woods are playing golf together, and I happen to get lucky and birdie the first hole when he makes a par, I can run around screaming to the world that I'm better than Tiger Woods. Right?
Posted by SidewalkTiger
Midwest, USA
Member since Dec 2019
68777 posts
Posted on 10/25/20 at 12:59 pm to
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Jesus, man. Pimping the Mississippi State defense to make a point for Brennan now? Lofty expectations you’ve got there.


No, my statement was in no way connected to Brennan.

Just pointing out that labeling Mississippi State as "mediocre" in this type of discussion isn't necessarily true.
Posted by shinerfan
Duckworld(Earth-616)
Member since Sep 2009
28362 posts
Posted on 10/25/20 at 1:00 pm to
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if Myles isn’t ready to go next weekend, and TJ starts again, plays well and gets the win in auburn, I think TJ should get the starting job moving forward!




I'm with you on this. I wouldn't jump Finley up based on one game but if Brennan can't go against Auburn the door is open. Whether it's better awareness or simply quicker feet Finley's movement in the pocket is vastly better and that will matter down the stretch. Auburn will be the best defense either has faced. If Finley gets the call and plays well he deserves the job. If Brennan is good to go then that's that and there's no controversy.
Posted by UnluckyTiger
Member since Sep 2003
42460 posts
Posted on 10/25/20 at 1:00 pm to
This whole TJ over Brennan is a new level of stupid from some of our fans.
Posted by SidewalkTiger
Midwest, USA
Member since Dec 2019
68777 posts
Posted on 10/25/20 at 1:01 pm to
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So we take a snapshot of the current defensive statistics and make that as though it's the exclamation point on your argument.


Statistics aren't perfect but what exactly should we use instead?
Posted by RealityTiger
Geismar, LA
Member since Jan 2010
20543 posts
Posted on 10/25/20 at 1:02 pm to
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Just pointing out that labeling Mississippi State as "mediocre" in this type of discussion isn't necessarily true.
The whole pointing out that Finley had it easier vs South Carolina than Brennan had it vs MSU/Vandy/Missouri is a bunk point. Some people need to go ahead cut ties with that direction and stick to another argument in the debate.
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