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Posted on 1/12/10 at 3:19 pm to BRfit
S & C are reflected in most all injuries. Strength meets weakness and weakness breaks and twists and heads for the sidelines. Most of our recent draftees dating back to Marcus Spears to Glen Dorsey have been labeled as suprisingly weak in the weight room their 1st yr in the league. Something is wrong guys.
Posted on 1/12/10 at 3:26 pm to LSS
quote:yes, not a collarbone. I mean, if i break your femur with a sledge hammer. it doesn't mean your training was terrible
S & C are reflected in most all injuries
quote:don't doubt that. see my post about addai. I don't know what moffitt does, so i won't criticize. Also, "weakness" may not be in reference to the number of pounds they can lift. Addai's weaknesses had nothing to do with presses and squats
Most of our recent draftees dating back to Marcus Spears to Glen Dorsey have been labeled as suprisingly weak in the weight room their 1st yr in the league. Something is wrong guys.
This post was edited on 1/12/10 at 3:29 pm
Posted on 1/12/10 at 3:49 pm to BRfit
Scott is a product of Moffit worked under him for years while Saban was here.
Also just because someone is gifted athletically and may start for the football team doesn't mean they are the best in the weight room.
I remember Faulk (the linebacker) doing horrible on the bench. You have to remember that the bench press isn't the most important lift in football.
Another thing to think about training is that some of these guys don't like to lift weights or be in the weight room. They may do okay when they have someone standing over them yelling at them but sometimes when they finally get a break from it all they stop training completely. It only takes 2-3wks for muscle atrophy to kick in and really affect a persons strength. Just ask anyone who lifts if you take anything over 2wks off your are basically screwed and set back a month of training.
Also just because someone is gifted athletically and may start for the football team doesn't mean they are the best in the weight room.
I remember Faulk (the linebacker) doing horrible on the bench. You have to remember that the bench press isn't the most important lift in football.
Another thing to think about training is that some of these guys don't like to lift weights or be in the weight room. They may do okay when they have someone standing over them yelling at them but sometimes when they finally get a break from it all they stop training completely. It only takes 2-3wks for muscle atrophy to kick in and really affect a persons strength. Just ask anyone who lifts if you take anything over 2wks off your are basically screwed and set back a month of training.
Posted on 1/12/10 at 3:56 pm to BAMBAM
Moffit is the best in the buisness because he learned from the best.... John Stucky.
Anytime you get tired of him send him to knoxville we would love to have him back. Along with about any other program in the country...
Anytime you get tired of him send him to knoxville we would love to have him back. Along with about any other program in the country...
Posted on 1/12/10 at 4:03 pm to BAMBAM
for the 1000th freaking time, Moffit doesnt train players to excel at the combine, he trains them to have functional football strength, speed, and agility.
Anyone that blames LSU players combine misfortunes on Moffitt is just plain dumb
Anyone that blames LSU players combine misfortunes on Moffitt is just plain dumb
Posted on 1/12/10 at 5:00 pm to BAMBAM
quote:was this meant for me? cause you're preaching to the choir
Scott is a product of Moffit worked under him for years while Saban was here.
Also just because someone is gifted athletically and may start for the football team doesn't mean they are the best in the weight room.
I remember Faulk (the linebacker) doing horrible on the bench. You have to remember that the bench press isn't the most important lift in football.
Another thing to think about training is that some of these guys don't like to lift weights or be in the weight room. They may do okay when they have someone standing over them yelling at them but sometimes when they finally get a break from it all they stop training completely. It only takes 2-3wks for muscle atrophy to kick in and really affect a persons strength. Just ask anyone who lifts if you take anything over 2wks off your are basically screwed and set back a month of training.
Posted on 1/12/10 at 5:14 pm to Lunchbox48
quote:
The protocals and programs used by our staff are on on par or better than any other S&C staff in the country. Coach Moffit is not the problem, he can only follow the needs given to him by the staff.
The level of athlete has declined recently.
The kids aren't buying into Moffitt's program like they did under Saban. They are taking on the slug/sloth attitude of their head coach.
Posted on 1/12/10 at 5:22 pm to HeadSlash
quote:LINK?
The kids aren't buying into Moffitt's program like they did under Saban. They are taking on the slug/sloth attitude of their head coach.
Posted on 1/12/10 at 5:25 pm to HeadSlash
quote:
HeadSlash
Please, Slash your Head. I know a group of players, and what you say is complete bullshite.
Moffitt did have a health issue this year, and it looks like he "beat it". He, and Sam Nader are there as long as they want to be.
Posted on 1/12/10 at 5:33 pm to BRfit
Nah BRfit your post was at the bottom and I was making a general statement.
Posted on 1/12/10 at 5:34 pm to Rohan2Reed
I didnt read all the post but something needs to be looked at with Moffitt. Seems like LSU players do worse at the combines than expected. Get slower as they progress.
The past couple of years LSU has looked tired and physically worn out at the end of the year thus the poor record.
The Alabama games comes to the forefront in that we had so many guys cramping up during that game and Alabama had very few.
The past couple of years LSU has looked tired and physically worn out at the end of the year thus the poor record.
The Alabama games comes to the forefront in that we had so many guys cramping up during that game and Alabama had very few.
Posted on 1/12/10 at 5:46 pm to Mudminnow
What is the love fest with Moffit with you guys. I am sure he is good otherwise Saban would not have hired him. But that was then and it obvious we are no longer a physical football team. Outside of Alem who was incridble weak all other DL and OL were FAT and SLOW.
Posted on 1/12/10 at 5:50 pm to Rohan2Reed
quote:
The guy has been at LSU for ten years now and I always thought he was a top notch strength and conditioning coach. But it seems over the past few years our guys aren't as ripped up as other SEC teams. Is this due to recruiting? Developing players for certain schemes? An overall shift in the personality of the team? What gives?
Yet we have more Combine invitees than any other SEC team. Heck, possibly any other team in the nation.
Posted on 1/12/10 at 6:04 pm to LSS
yeah thats what it is. player gets injured on the field because he cant bench press 225 5 times.
give me a break.
give me a break.
Posted on 1/12/10 at 6:09 pm to Mudminnow
realistically speaking. how many guys lsu puts out a year that will go to the combine.
during this time moffitt has so many other duties with the current college athletes, preparing offseason work for the current football team, administrative stuff, the combine may not be the greatest of his concerns especially since LSU runs their own combine later in the year. in addition to that, LSU has been in a new years day bowl game for the past 3-5 years, that doesn't give an elite athlete the greatest amount of time to peak for his combine performance.
during this time moffitt has so many other duties with the current college athletes, preparing offseason work for the current football team, administrative stuff, the combine may not be the greatest of his concerns especially since LSU runs their own combine later in the year. in addition to that, LSU has been in a new years day bowl game for the past 3-5 years, that doesn't give an elite athlete the greatest amount of time to peak for his combine performance.
Posted on 1/12/10 at 6:18 pm to lsucoonass
you are incredibly naive if you don't think the top spots in ALL ATHLETICS is juiced. Every once in a blue moon you see someone get caught.
even High school football dude.
You would be better off saying politicians don't lie
even High school football dude.
You would be better off saying politicians don't lie
Posted on 1/12/10 at 6:47 pm to BAMBAM
quote:
Nah BRfit your post was at the bottom and I was making a general statement.
Posted on 1/12/10 at 6:58 pm to truthbetold
quote:
Moffitt doesn't do a good job but you can't say that here because he's untouchable on the Rant.
Last two years something has changed. People lose their edge sometimes. For whatever reason, the LSU team S&C has been sub par the last couple of years.
Posted on 1/12/10 at 7:05 pm to Rohan2Reed
Miles is holding Moffitt back.
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