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re: University of Florida President ranks LSU as "adequate"

Posted on 6/23/09 at 12:28 pm to
Posted by TulaneTigerFan
Seattle
Member since Sep 2005
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Posted on 6/23/09 at 12:28 pm to
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FWIW I would consider Florida and Tulane about equal in most cases




you're just as bad as UF's president
Posted by TulaneTigerFan
Seattle
Member since Sep 2005
35856 posts
Posted on 6/23/09 at 12:29 pm to
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This is why US News rankings are bogus. This makes up 25% of the scores, I believe. And they are required to do this for ALL of those in the rankings.


they really need to change their ranking metrics to weigh numerical data more heavily than subjective opinions
Posted by Macphisto
Washington, DC
Member since Jul 2005
5950 posts
Posted on 6/23/09 at 12:29 pm to
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With LSU in his "adequate" category are others like . . . American University


Aw man I came to AU in part to go to a better law school than LSU, and now I'm just stuck with them in the "adequate" category?

Someone should show Machen the US News and World Report law school rankings...American is tied with UF for 47
Posted by gotygers
west St.Tammany
Member since Sep 2007
3016 posts
Posted on 6/23/09 at 12:33 pm to
ACTUALLY LSU IS MUCH HARDER THEN TULANE ESP. THEIR LAW SCHOOL. Lsu's bar passage rate is allways supperior to Tulane.

Tulane has ivy leage grading and a very undeserved reputation.
Posted by usc6158
Member since Feb 2008
38900 posts
Posted on 6/23/09 at 12:35 pm to
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Tulane has ivy leage grading


not really

quote:

very undeserved reputation.



if anything it's underrated right now because of Katrina

Tulane is very much a national school
Posted by Catman88
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Dec 2004
49125 posts
Posted on 6/23/09 at 12:35 pm to
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you're just as bad as UF's president


Most people would agree that Florida and Tulane are on par with each other.. Or are you willing to part with all the ranking systems that Tulane fans point to when they want to knock on LSU? I certainly know Tulane grads are quick to point to their Tier 1 status as some sort of great achievment.
Posted by gotygers
west St.Tammany
Member since Sep 2007
3016 posts
Posted on 6/23/09 at 12:39 pm to
Usc they do have Ivy lg. grading. When I was in law school I paid a visit to Tulane's law lib. and saw an open letter saying 50% of the students had to get a B or above on each test.

At loyola we had classes were no one got a b.
This post was edited on 6/23/09 at 12:41 pm
Posted by TulaneTigerFan
Seattle
Member since Sep 2005
35856 posts
Posted on 6/23/09 at 12:40 pm to
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Most people would agree that Florida and Tulane are on par with each other


nope

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Or are you willing to part with all the ranking systems that Tulane fans point to when they want to knock on LSU?


meh, tulane is on a slight dip thanks to katrina. prior to the hurricane TU jumped around in the 38-42 range. this is florida's either first or second year ever in the top 50. if you compare tulane's 27% acceptance rate and other admissions stats to vandy and florida, tulane has way more in common with vandy. i'm not saying we're as good, because we clearly aren't. the acceptance rate has dropped down to 23% for the current entering class. we'll shoot up the arbitrary ranking systems once last years numbers are being used, and even further once the current numbers hit.
This post was edited on 6/23/09 at 12:41 pm
Posted by usc6158
Member since Feb 2008
38900 posts
Posted on 6/23/09 at 12:40 pm to
oh you mean in terms of grade inflation. I thought you meant in terms of prestige
Posted by CharlesLSU
Member since Jan 2007
33505 posts
Posted on 6/23/09 at 12:42 pm to
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ACTUALLY LSU IS MUCH HARDER THEN TULANE ESP. THEIR LAW SCHOOL. Lsu's bar passage rate is allways supperior to Tulane.


apples to oranges.......many/most Tulane grads leave the state, whereas the LSU grads stay. So, who do you think has the highest bar passage outside of Louisiana? The curriculum is not geared to the same goal at each school.

Just being fair.


OH, Tulane is more of a liberal arts based institution, but UF is geared more towards the sciences. Sure both have a bit of each but what they are based on is different. Besides, Tulane did drop their Engineering program (except ChemE or BioE).
This post was edited on 6/23/09 at 12:46 pm
Posted by Catman88
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Dec 2004
49125 posts
Posted on 6/23/09 at 12:44 pm to
After going to Washington I have to say that I have a MUCH higher respect for someone that attended a state school that did well than a private school at any level. Its just that the private schools tend to stick out more. LSU was harder for me because the teachers had so many students it was hard to build any relationship with. At the private schools its no secret that they will go out of their way to get you to pass. In many ways with much less effort. Its hard to attend a school where you are just a number. When your tuition is over 35K though they tend to pay closer attention to you. I know I am more proud of my degree from LSU than my PhD studies at Washington. (never finished was offered a job I couldnt turn down)
This post was edited on 6/23/09 at 12:46 pm
Posted by TulaneTigerFan
Seattle
Member since Sep 2005
35856 posts
Posted on 6/23/09 at 12:46 pm to
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if anything it's underrated right now because of Katrina

Tulane is very much a national school


thank you

tulane's rep in the state of louisiana might actually be worse than it is anywhere else in the country due to hate. this thread is a good example. i have no idea how this turned into a bash tulane thread
Posted by denvertiger
Golden
Member since Feb 2007
4534 posts
Posted on 6/23/09 at 12:48 pm to
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Lsu's bar passage rate is allways supperior to Tulane


Ummm...where did you to school?
Posted by Bayou_Bengal@Irving
PDRC
Member since Feb 2005
1548 posts
Posted on 6/23/09 at 12:50 pm to
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When we quit funneling dollars into useless 4-year universities (read Nicholls, Southeastern, NSU, Grambling) then LSU might have the resources to become a top tier school.


Exactly, state legislators funnel pork to those glorified junior colleges to win re-election into perpetuity. They have been open admissions w/ a comically sad minimum entrances requirements.

Not every high school grad belongs at a university. These places should be converted to vo-tech institutions or closed.
Posted by Catman88
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Dec 2004
49125 posts
Posted on 6/23/09 at 12:52 pm to
Yet when you hear about all the higher education cuts and the outrage you NEVER hear the idea of possibly shutting down one or two of the useless schools. Hell look at MS as an example. You go to either Ole Miss or Ms State mainly depending on what you want to study.
Posted by TulaneTigerFan
Seattle
Member since Sep 2005
35856 posts
Posted on 6/23/09 at 12:55 pm to
it will never happen, but louisiana really needs to consolidate a few of the four year universities. there are entirely too many schools for such a small state
Posted by Hideo Nomo
Put up both hands, drop one thumb
Member since Apr 2008
7457 posts
Posted on 6/23/09 at 12:56 pm to
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he rated georgetown and emory as just "good"


Well those universities aren't nearly as distinguished for their academic prowess as Florida.
Posted by Bankshot
Member since Jun 2006
5407 posts
Posted on 6/23/09 at 12:58 pm to
I can't believe he has Florida as "Distinguished" and Vandy as just "Good". Also, it might come as a suprise, but all of the public Mississippi schools have the same entrance requirements.
Posted by SadUCFKnight
Member since Jun 2008
2658 posts
Posted on 6/23/09 at 1:03 pm to
University of Central Florida freshman profile:
Location: 13 miles east of downtown Orlando
Total Enrollment: 50,500
FTIC Applications: 25,000
FTIC Admits: 9,500
FTIC Enrolled: 3,950
Average SAT: 1219
Average ACT: 26
Average H.S. GPA: 3.76
National Merit Scholars: 63
Ethnic Minority Enrollment: 28%

Posted by ShermanTxTiger
Broussard, La
Member since Oct 2007
11346 posts
Posted on 6/23/09 at 1:07 pm to
I am a graduate of LSU and it pains me to say this but... When I went to LSU it was better academically than ULL or any other state schools but I doubt it could complete with Illinois, Missouri, NC or Va.

The school is under funded and the HS system in La is less than stellar.
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