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Posted on 1/31/19 at 2:42 pm to
Posted by Lester Earl
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Posted on 1/31/19 at 2:42 pm to
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31 games is an excellent sample size. Now, let me ask you something....why would you want to lump in stats from last years team with stats from this years team?


because his poor play carried over from last year? why else?


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Can you say he had bad games this year and last year, yeah without a doubt



well hey, at least you can admit something MadKing cant. That he actually played poorly.
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
67520 posts
Posted on 1/31/19 at 3:24 pm to
My god you’re a liar and about as mature as a 2 year old.
This post was edited on 1/31/19 at 3:27 pm
Posted by honeybadger07
The Woodlands
Member since Jul 2015
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Posted on 1/31/19 at 3:39 pm to
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31 games, consecutively, is a strong & pointed sample size to back up my claim that he didn’t play well.


I mean, does this not read that for 31 consecutive games he didn't play well?

Maybe your trying to go for...he had a stretch of 31 games between last season and this season where he had some games that he did not play well and brings down his stats in that time period?.....which i dont think there is a player in history that hasnt had a stretch of some bad games when you spread out the data sample to being that long of a time frame... which IMHO i dont think it is a valid sample given the reasons I have already mentioned and how that affects ones stats. He had a few rough games at end of conference play last year, yeah sure take that W if it makes you feel any better but your argueement is still filled with holes, selective, and dumb IMHO and only made to fit your narrative because you got busted posting things back in December about calling Waters complete trash.

I mean dude, come on, you really are one hard headed MF'er, remind me of my oldest kid that will try to argue and justify stupid shite no matter what it is.

Just move on with life
This post was edited on 1/31/19 at 3:43 pm
Posted by Lester Earl
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Member since Nov 2003
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Posted on 1/31/19 at 3:53 pm to
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which i dont think there is a player in history that hasnt had a stretch of some bad games when you spread out the data sample to being that long of a time frame...


No, that isn’t how sample sizes work. Especially one that is equal to a normal college basketball season.

One or two or 3 games does not throw a sample size that large out of whack. This is a very simple concept that most adults should understand.

He didn’t play well over a 31 game stretch. That means exactly what it says. I do not need another low IQ person trying to attempt to change my words.


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remind me of my oldest kid that will try to argue and justify stupid shite no matter what it is.


This all makes sense that you are taking up for madking with this nonsensical bull crap. Madking is your son, isn’t he?
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
67520 posts
Posted on 1/31/19 at 3:59 pm to
Lester is one of these people who believes he’s right and the rest of the world is wrong, along with stats and facts, they’re wrong too.
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
67520 posts
Posted on 1/31/19 at 4:02 pm to
He’s not taking up for me, your argument isn’t based on fact it’s based on hand picking stats to make a false blanket assumption. You’ve done nothing but lash out and attack everyone who disagrees with you and you’ve made repeated false statements about all of those people but you don’t see anything wrong with that and keep complimenting yourself in the process. You’re wrong get over yourself my god man.
Posted by Lester Earl
3rd Ward
Member since Nov 2003
289575 posts
Posted on 1/31/19 at 4:15 pm to
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your argument isn’t based on fact it’s based on hand picking stats to make a false blanket assumption.


This is how unstable people respond to facts that directly disapprove everything they are trying to say.

We get it Mad. Waters has never played a bad game. His bad games were never bad. It was always the rest of the teams’ fault. We get it
Posted by mmcgrath
Indianapolis
Member since Feb 2010
37197 posts
Posted on 1/31/19 at 4:28 pm to
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I mean, does this not read that for 31 consecutive games he didn't play well?

Maybe your trying to go for...he had a stretch of 31 games between last season and this season where he had some games that he did not play well and brings down his stats in that time period?.....which i dont think there is a player in history that hasnt had a stretch of some bad games when you spread out the data sample to being that long of a time frame... which IMHO i dont think it is a valid sample given the reasons I have already mentioned and how that affects ones stats. He had a few rough games at end of conference play last year, yeah sure take that W if it makes you feel any better but your argueement is still filled with holes, selective, and dumb IMHO and only made to fit your narrative because you got busted posting things back in December about calling Waters complete trash.

I mean dude, come on, you really are one hard headed MF'er, remind me of my oldest kid that will try to argue and justify stupid shite no matter what it is.

Just move on with life


He is using those stats because that was the argument from 10 or 11 games ago when some of us said that Tremont needed to get benched and others, like Madking, strongly opposed that.

Anyway, Tremont was benched, and his play immediately improved. Now Madking is using the 10 game stretch to say that we never should have been critical of Waters to begin with. It is getting rather old.
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
67520 posts
Posted on 1/31/19 at 4:35 pm to
Again with your straw man arguments and lies. I’ve never once said this in fact I’ve even referenced his early season struggles many times. You’re just mad you were called out on your bullshite at the beginning of the thread. Everytime he has a good game you try to backtrack on the thing you say about him and this time you were caught so you threw a fit. It’s ok we all know now you’re incapable of admitting the things you do, you’ve proven you don’t have the maturity or self awareness to act like an adult.
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
67520 posts
Posted on 1/31/19 at 4:37 pm to
Nope I’ve never said that and I never disagreed with his benching and I’ve never used a 10 game stretch of his to defend him. I’ve used his entire career over and over again, the only small portions of his career of his career I used were to show that Lester was calling very good games during his “31 game stretch” sub par or his theory that waters played bad against good teams was also untrue. If you’d like to prove me wrong simply link the posts where I’ve said what you’re accusing.
This post was edited on 1/31/19 at 4:43 pm
Posted by mmcgrath
Indianapolis
Member since Feb 2010
37197 posts
Posted on 1/31/19 at 4:42 pm to
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Nope I’ve never said that and I never disagreed with his benching. If you’d like to prove me wrong simply link the posts where I’ve said what you’re accusing.

Well that is the time Lester Earl was critical of Waters and you seem to be holding a grudge from that time. But I don't think it is worth my time which is why I said "posters like Madking".

Can you tell me if there was some other time you are angry at Lester Earl from?
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
67520 posts
Posted on 1/31/19 at 4:48 pm to
I’m not angry with him I’m simply pointing out that he’s unfairly judged him even during SEC play last season and he’s tried to lie about calling him a losing player and bad player now that he’s playing well which he is. The previous argument you’re talking about I acknowledged that Waters play dropped but so did most of our starters. Mays shooting percentage dropped nearly exactly the same amount as Waters yet he’s never once attacked Mays, Smart who he claimed was much better than Waters career numbers are as low as Waters down stretches. He’s always unfairly and dishonestly attacked Waters and when I correct him on his lies he starts the fight not me. All you have to do is see the beginning of this thread when I posted past quotes he’s made about Waters and then him claiming that all but one are true.
This post was edited on 1/31/19 at 4:52 pm
Posted by Lester Earl
3rd Ward
Member since Nov 2003
289575 posts
Posted on 1/31/19 at 4:50 pm to
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Everytime he has a good game you try to backtrack on the thing you say about him and this time you were caught so you threw a fi


I’ve been saying for weeks that he has been ballin
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
67520 posts
Posted on 1/31/19 at 4:55 pm to
So week before last when you said he had a bad game after a 17 point 11 assist night then falsely claimed he routinely has games where he scores 15 points on 20 shots what you really meant was “he’s ballin?” You’re hypocrisy and ability to deny the truth is unbelievable.
This post was edited on 1/31/19 at 4:56 pm
Posted by Solo Cam
Member since Sep 2015
34807 posts
Posted on 1/31/19 at 4:57 pm to
Hahaha ole Lester strikes again.
Posted by Lester Earl
3rd Ward
Member since Nov 2003
289575 posts
Posted on 1/31/19 at 5:02 pm to
It’s not my fault you don’t understand hyperbole

Waters played terrible @ Mizzou & I said nothing. I didn’t bump anything, I didn’t come find you to let you know how bad he played. You are trying to paint me as a witch hunter.

You’re delusional. For some reason me saying Waters has played poorly in the past, which is supported by stats, upsets you. That is on YOU.
Posted by mmcgrath
Indianapolis
Member since Feb 2010
37197 posts
Posted on 1/31/19 at 5:03 pm to
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I’m not angry with him I’m simply pointing out that he’s unfairly judged him even during SEC play last season and he’s tried to lie about calling him a losing player and bad player now that he’s playing well which he is. The previous argument you’re talking about I acknowledged that Waters play dropped but so did most of our starters. Mays shooting percentage dropped nearly exactly the same amount as Waters yet he’s never once attacked Mays, Smart who he claimed was much better than Waters career numbers are as low as Waters down stretches. He’s always unfairly and dishonestly attacked Waters and when I correct him on his lies he starts the fight not me. All you have to do is see the beginning of this thread when I posted past quotes he’s made about Waters and then him claiming that all but one are true.
Mays is a better overall player. He plays lock down defense on his man and rarely turns the ball over. Plus he has played well when the team has needed him the most. So if his shooting falls a little it doesn't bother me as much.

Looking back at your post history, you were very critical of Coach Wade. You said the team had no structure and they were just playing street ball. Do you think Coach Wade suddenly installed on offense in December or do you think it is more likely Waters got the message and stopped taking as many chances? In hindsight, what was the problem?
Posted by Lester Earl
3rd Ward
Member since Nov 2003
289575 posts
Posted on 1/31/19 at 5:05 pm to
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Looking back at your post history, you were very critical of Coach Wade


Oh wow. Does Madking hate Will Wade?
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
67520 posts
Posted on 1/31/19 at 5:08 pm to
Wade himself has admitted exactly what I said. That’s where I got it from lol. Over the break he said that he had been allowing the guys to freelance but that he was going back to the offense we ran last season which is why, since the winter break, you’ve seen Naz on the block and his 3 point attempts drop from over 4 a game drown to fewer than 2 per game. You’ve also seen Waters turnovers and the teams turnovers cut in half. My point was not to knock Wade only that with more structure the offense would be more clean and less chaotic and that Waters play improving was a direct result of this which is exactly what’s happened.
This post was edited on 1/31/19 at 5:14 pm
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
67520 posts
Posted on 1/31/19 at 5:10 pm to
It’s not hyperbole when you use it to convince people who haven’t looked at the numbers that it’s true. Using false statements over and over to represent stats and facts isn’t hyperbole, this is yet another attempt from you to redefine a lie you were caught in to cover your arse. Now you’re gonna start another dishonest narrative about me hating my favorite coach lol. My god you’re immature.
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