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Posted on 9/30/11 at 10:53 am to
Posted by Carlos Santannaclaus
Houston
Member since Jan 2008
3272 posts
Posted on 9/30/11 at 10:53 am to
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Do we need a running QB that badly


JJ doesn't throw the ball that well. I'd hate to go back to the option to the short side of the field for a yard, too.
Posted by ATLTiger
#TreyBiletnikoffs
Member since Sep 2003
46337 posts
Posted on 9/30/11 at 10:53 am to
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Richard Dickson will tell you that he's pretty sure JJ doesn't know that the TE is an eligible receiver.



oh no you didn't! in JJ's 2 starts at the end of 08, Dickson caught 6 passes, 2 for TDs. I never understood why Gary didn't cultivate that combo. I guess some of it was moving Dickson around a little in 09 (he was more H-back than pure TE) and his injuries. but still.
Posted by CajunFootball
Jackson, Mississippi
Member since Oct 2010
19432 posts
Posted on 9/30/11 at 10:54 am to
We're not an explosive offense. However, defense wins championships and we're good in that stat. Our offense runs the same plays over and over. Everyone in the world knows the next play usually but defenses can't stop us. I'd rather move the ball 3.4 yds per play then be like Oregon and can't score.
Posted by Cold Cous Cous
Bucktown, La.
Member since Oct 2003
15347 posts
Posted on 9/30/11 at 10:55 am to
sorry for double post
This post was edited on 9/30/11 at 10:58 am
Posted by Commando
Never Never Land
Member since Jan 2009
2814 posts
Posted on 9/30/11 at 10:55 am to
And how many TD's did he get against tOSU? And how many total in 2009? But I forget, all of the poor performance from the QB position in 2009 and 2010 was 100% on Gary. Sorry I lost track for a minute.
Posted by junkfunky
Member since Jan 2011
36096 posts
Posted on 9/30/11 at 10:56 am to
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I know you're trying to be funny, but for once take part in a thread and talk football.


Impossible. His doucheyness won't allow it.
Posted by Cold Cous Cous
Bucktown, La.
Member since Oct 2003
15347 posts
Posted on 9/30/11 at 10:56 am to
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We're not an explosive offense. However, defense wins championships and we're good in that stat.

I agree with this 100%. Our offense hasn't done much because we don't need our offense to do much.
Posted by heartbreakTiger
grinding for my grinders
Member since Jan 2008
138974 posts
Posted on 9/30/11 at 10:57 am to
this offense is not getting enough 3 and outs and it has too many touchdown passes. JJ should tone this problem down and we can stop blowing teams out now. This o is lacking the making the games close because we have a qb that actually throws for tds now.
Posted by Maximus
Member since Feb 2004
81619 posts
Posted on 9/30/11 at 11:00 am to
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I know you're trying to be funny, but for once take part in a thread and talk football.

Given the circumstance that our one, primary receiver (and that is all we have thrown to for years) is covered on a third and medium or long, do we have a QB outside of Jefferson that can run for that first down?


so the basis of the "miles can do no wrong" crowd's argument is that we need JJ because our RBs won't be able to run it agaisnt UF or Bama BUT JJ will be able to run for first downs against UF and Bama on 3rd and 10s?

I'm so glad i finally get to talk football with an X and Os genius like yourself. So, again, your plan is to put the QB who can't throw in on passing downs (ie 3rd and 5+) because he can easily just click his heels and run for the first down?
Posted by Mayhawman
Somewhere in the middle of SEC West
Member since Dec 2009
10465 posts
Posted on 9/30/11 at 11:07 am to
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This o is lacking the making the games close because we have a qb that actually throws for tds now.
It little to do with QB play.
JJ has the best comp% for a season since Jamarcus.
We have an OC that actually surprises defenses now and again with PA.
You can like Lee without hating Jefferson.
Posted by Antonio Moss
The South
Member since Mar 2006
49356 posts
Posted on 9/30/11 at 11:07 am to
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And how many TD's did he get against tOSU?


You do realize that the OSU game was against the 2007 team, right?


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And how many total in 2009? But I forget, all of the poor performance from the QB position in 2009 and 2010 was 100% on Gary. Sorry I lost track for a minute.


Again, why do you keep excluded 2008?

In his career after 2007, he caught four TD passes - two from Lee, two from Jefferson.

Our TEs caught a grand total of 3 more passes in 2008 than 2009.

It makes you seem like you have sort of agenda when you make statements that clearly aren't true.
Posted by Maximus
Member since Feb 2004
81619 posts
Posted on 9/30/11 at 11:09 am to
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JJ has the best comp%



not hard when you'd rather take a sack then risk an incompletion even with the game on the line
Posted by Ford Frenzy
337 posts
Member since Aug 2010
6881 posts
Posted on 9/30/11 at 11:09 am to
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If the O can't move the ball, I think you would rather see LSU lose games with Lee than try something different with JJ.
I'd rather see us lose before changing rather than changing then losing our first game
Posted by ATLTiger
#TreyBiletnikoffs
Member since Sep 2003
46337 posts
Posted on 9/30/11 at 11:11 am to
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And how many TD's did he get against tOSU?


not sure what that has to do with anything.

quote:

And how many total in 2009?


0 I believe. which is why I wondered why they didn't try to get him the ball more. seems like he and JJ had something going, mighta been a nice checkdown, or even primary read on some plays.

quote:

But I forget, all of the poor performance from the QB position in 2009 and 2010 was 100% on Gary.


I've never said that, and don't believe anything close to it.
Posted by Antonio Moss
The South
Member since Mar 2006
49356 posts
Posted on 9/30/11 at 11:13 am to
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But I forget, all of the poor performance from the QB position in 2009 and 2010 was 100% on Gary.


I don't agree with this.

It should be that all of the poor performance from the QB position in 2008, 2009, and 2010 was 90+% on Gary.
Posted by Mayhawman
Somewhere in the middle of SEC West
Member since Dec 2009
10465 posts
Posted on 9/30/11 at 11:18 am to
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not hard when you'd rather take a sack then risk an interception even with the game on the line

fify

He was shellshocked a bit from Lee's experience in '08 for some plays and ran for his life on others. He had a general distrust of pocket integrity and wasn't keen on stepping up.
That '09 OL was a joke. You have even posted this yourself.
Posted by CantonTiger128
Member since Aug 2011
1291 posts
Posted on 9/30/11 at 11:19 am to
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It had to be the best of the 3 though. Seemed to remember Charles Scott running well, and points being put on the board.

It was all offset with the turnovers, and no defense to back it up.


This...total offense was in the 50's ranking...not triple digits...JL was just too young and not ready and threw too many picks...but even then he was better at moving the offense
Posted by Antonio Moss
The South
Member since Mar 2006
49356 posts
Posted on 9/30/11 at 11:19 am to
It also doesn't help when our WRs have zero separation.
Posted by Mayhawman
Somewhere in the middle of SEC West
Member since Dec 2009
10465 posts
Posted on 9/30/11 at 11:21 am to
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I'd rather see us lose before changing rather than changing then losing our first game
No wonder you're a failure.
Posted by Maximus
Member since Feb 2004
81619 posts
Posted on 9/30/11 at 11:22 am to
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quote:


not hard when you'd rather take a sack then risk an interception even with the game on the line



fify


he was doing it in games we were losing, on 4th downs as the clock ran out. That tells me he is either retarded or more worried about stats than winning.
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