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Posted on 11/16/08 at 12:50 pm to LSUtigahs28
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Has Peveto even done a good job with our LBs? I mean I would be happier if he hired a legit DC and let the guy assemble his own staff.
Are you willing to lose Davenport, Janzen Jackson, Brockers, Akiem Hicks, Kevin Minter & Drayton Clahoun maybe Downs & probably 5 star Safety Craig Loston over it?
What good is a New DC with no impact players?
Posted on 11/16/08 at 12:52 pm to genuineLSUtiger
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I'll remind you naysayers of this when they put an all-world product on the field next year
you want to place a bet on that. how much money can you afford to lose.
Posted on 11/16/08 at 12:52 pm to Sammich
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Are you willing to lose Davenport, Janzen Jackson, Brockers, Akiem Hicks, Kevin Minter & Drayton Clahoun maybe Downs & probably 5 star Safety Craig Loston over it?
What good is a New DC with no impact players?
If Les fires them and we lose those recruits, do you think that will be a poor decision on his part?
Posted on 11/16/08 at 12:53 pm to Sammich
Didn't ULM beat Troy 31-30 last week and Ole Miss beat ULM 59-0 this weekend?
Posted on 11/16/08 at 12:53 pm to Sammich
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Are you willing to lose Davenport, Janzen Jackson, Brockers, Akiem Hicks, Kevin Minter & Drayton Clahoun maybe Downs & probably 5 star Safety Craig Loston over it?
Riiiiiight because there's no way they could be really happy with the new DC and chose to stay on.
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What good is a New DC with no impact players?
We already have impact players. They aren't being utilized.
Posted on 11/16/08 at 12:54 pm to Rocket
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Doesn't sound like a vote of confidence to me.
I'm cautiosly optomistic. I want it to work & it might all come together. Mallory can geta job anywhere he's connected & BDP is a helluva recruiter, he can catch on somewhere fairly easily as well. I don't know if they'd take a demotion at this point. Really like not to lose them.
Posted on 11/16/08 at 12:54 pm to genuineLSUtiger
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I'll remind you naysayers of this when they put an all-world product on the field next year.
You my friend are a full of sh** troll. Its not all that funny...
Posted on 11/16/08 at 1:05 pm to Rocket
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If Les fires them and we lose those recruits, do you think that will be a poor decision on his part?
Yes I do. I'm hoping if there are changes, they will stay on.
Posted on 11/16/08 at 1:06 pm to LSUtigahs28
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Riiiiiight because there's no way they could be really happy with the new DC and chose to stay on.
I'm not joking about this. LSU would lose more than 1/2 of our current Defensive recuits maybe mmore. Remember that 5 Star TE-Dajleon Farr who ended up in Miami for example.
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We already have impact players. They aren't being utilized.
We need Linebackers very badly. We need a bigtime Safety badly. That's not counting the DTs & DEs we need to replace this year.
Posted on 11/16/08 at 1:10 pm to Sammich
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I'm not joking about this. LSU would lose more than 1/2 of our current Defensive recuits maybe mmore. Remember that 5 Star TE-Dajleon Farr who ended up in Miami for example.
Why do you think the new DC couldn't keep them on board or get other recruits.
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We need Linebackers very badly.
Baker has played well, but this is our biggest need.
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We need a bigtime Safety badly
We have plenty of guys who could be good safeties. If they aren't developing that is on the coaches and we need to replace the coaches.
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That's not counting the DTs & DEs we need to replace this year.
Worst case is RJF goes. That still leaves
Alem, Woods, Nevis, Corley(?) which is a solid front 4. We have good depth.
If these guys aren't producing its on the coaches and they should be replaced.
Posted on 11/16/08 at 1:11 pm to Sammich
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I'm not joking about this. LSU would lose more than 1/2 of our current Defensive recuits maybe mmore
You don't know that. It's not like we'd be having a complete staff change. If we hire a reputable coordinator, they may all stay on.
Posted on 11/16/08 at 1:38 pm to LSUtigahs28
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Why do you think the new DC couldn't keep them on board or get other recruits.
Do you remember how long it took Les to find Pelini? If Miles makes a changes, it would be after the season & Bowl games. Signing day Feb 4.
That gives him roughly 1 month. Then after the New DC is in place, he'd probably have to go out and put together a staff. Another month, don't care who it is either. By this time, the top recruits are saying "LSU is unsettled, I don't even know who the position coach will be." Helped along by Urban Meyer & Saban, in their ear. Big losses for LSU on signing day. Losses that will affect us for more than a year.
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Baker has played well, but this is our biggest need.
Yes, we need a couple more there.
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We have plenty of guys who could be good safeties. If they aren't developing that is on the coaches and we need to replace the coaches.
No we really don't. We have Karnell Hatcher & maybe Derrick Bryant. Chad Jones is Junior next year, McCray a Senior.
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Worst case is RJF goes. That still leaves
Alem, Woods, Nevis, Corley(?) which is a solid front 4. We have good depth.
If these guys aren't producing its on the coaches and they should be replaced.
Alem & Woods are Seniors next year. We have some players, but we need to sign DTs & DE's. If not, the next bunch is available is February 2010. And can play 2 years from now.
All I'm saying is think it through very carefully.
This post was edited on 11/16/08 at 1:39 pm
Posted on 11/16/08 at 1:41 pm to Rocket
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You don't know that. It's not like we'd be having a complete staff change. If we hire a reputable coordinator, they may all stay on.
Rocket, read above post & see if it sounds accurate or not.
This post was edited on 11/16/08 at 1:42 pm
Posted on 11/16/08 at 1:47 pm to tirebiter
Yes and Ole Miss beat Florida, and Florida beat us, and we beat Troy.............the fricking score comparisons don't work! Please stop comparing scores.
Posted on 11/16/08 at 1:48 pm to Sammich
I still don't think they will all just jump ship because of a few staff changes. I understand the concern, but Miles will be in a tough spot. It depends on how we finish out.
Posted on 11/16/08 at 1:49 pm to Sammich
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Do you remember how long it took Les to find Pelini?
This assumes he doesn't pick a guy before bowl season is over and have a handshake agreement in place.
The Pelini situation is totally different since Les was just hired.
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Then after the New DC is in place, he'd probably have to go out and put together a staff.
Assuming he doesn't bring his with him or have agreements with the guys already.
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By this time, the top recruits are saying "LSU is unsettled, I don't even know who the position coach will be."
Unless what I mentioned above happens. The Pelini situation is a terrible comparison.
You don't think any recruits would go, damn Dick Bumpas has turned out some really good defense with lacking talent. I'm talent think what he could make me. I think they would.
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No we really don't. We have Karnell Hatcher & maybe Derrick Bryant. Chad Jones is Junior next year, McCray a Senior.
In other words we have guys for 2-3 years which you must admit would be enough for whoever the new DC is to bring in a guy or two.
If we need a recruit to replace one of those guys its an indictment on the coaches and they should be replaced.
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Alem & Woods are Seniors next year. We have some players, but we need to sign DTs & DE's. If not, the next bunch is available is February 2010. And can play 2 years from now.
Which we have enough depth to get by till then.
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All I'm saying is think it through very carefully.
I have an I think you are making an idiotic argument. You act like we will hire a totally incompetent recruiting DC and absolutely none of the recruits has an attachment to Miles or LSU, which is absurd.
Posted on 11/16/08 at 2:00 pm to Rocket
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I still don't think they will all just jump ship because of a few staff changes. I understand the concern, but Miles will be in a tough spot. It depends on how we finish out.
That's what I'm looking at, how we finish. It depends if there is a change, does the new guy want to bring in his own staff? I think yes on that, but it depends who it is. If not, would Peveto & Mallory take a demotion? My guess is definately Lose Mallory, 50/50 on Peveto. Biggest problem I see is the recruits get very attached to their position coaches. That really worries me. Earl Lane s a big deal too.
This post was edited on 11/16/08 at 2:01 pm
Posted on 11/16/08 at 2:01 pm to Sammich
I would like to point out that stick with a terrible pair of DCs would impact us long past one lost recruiting class.
Posted on 11/16/08 at 2:01 pm to Sammich
Well, if he doesn't make changes and we get worse on defense next year and lose 4 or so games or more, he'll be in the same position next year.
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