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re: Wide-ranging, eye-opening interview with Brandon Harris

Posted on 3/30/17 at 9:26 am to
Posted by Rickdaddy4188
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2011
48098 posts
Posted on 3/30/17 at 9:26 am to
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TINY RICK


I think we will get along just fine.
Posted by sweetwaterbilly
Member since Mar 2017
19641 posts
Posted on 3/30/17 at 9:29 am to
This reminds me of our introduction to Jordan Jefferson. IIRC, it was the Georgia Tech game that he went off and got everyone extremely excited. And we know how that ultimately turned out. I think BH could have excelled with better coaching, tbh. I wish him nothing but the best, and hate that it didn't work out. Can't imagine being that age and getting some of the crap he took from fans like death threats.
Posted by buccaneer88
San Antonio, TX
Member since Nov 2016
666 posts
Posted on 3/30/17 at 9:30 am to
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When he blamed an interception on Foster Moreau, he lost me. The guy didn't own up to one thing.


he didn't blame Moreau dumb arse. He Moreau thought he was going to run which means he most likely was out of the pocket. He said he made mistakes too.

And when asked about a moment or pass that you want back, he said the Alabama game when he threw an interception.

You arse wipes just want to pile on the guy.
Posted by the LSUSaint
Member since Nov 2009
15444 posts
Posted on 3/30/17 at 9:30 am to
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Which is straight up bullshite. Our oline was very good and one of the best olines in cfb last year.



We weren't talking about last year, when he wasn't the starter all year.
Posted by the LSUSaint
Member since Nov 2009
15444 posts
Posted on 3/30/17 at 9:34 am to
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Anthony Jennings c


Yet he started here. What's that tell you of Miles?

Craig Nall was solid somewhere else.

It would have been a ducking blessing to see how JJ would have faired elsewhere.
Posted by DCtiger1
Member since Jul 2009
11508 posts
Posted on 3/30/17 at 9:37 am to
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Craig Nall was solid somewhere else.


The frick? He transferred in 2001. How is that in any way relevant to the QBs during Miles tenure?
Posted by Fuzzybunz
Member since Jan 2017
270 posts
Posted on 3/30/17 at 9:43 am to
I hope he is able to have success but that success will depend on several things other than just moving to a spread offense.

He needs to improve defensive reads.

He has to find accuracy in short to intermediate routes. No more putting the ball 3 feet higher than a receiver can catch it.

He must learn to go through all progressions to find the best or open receiver. Rarely did he go past his second option and went back to the first to many times.

This being said I do feel Fedora will do a much better job of working to improve these things than Miles and Cameron did.
I think accuracy is going to be his biggest problem as he did go to many different camps and worked with a lot of different people to try to improve it without much success.
Posted by Rickdaddy4188
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2011
48098 posts
Posted on 3/30/17 at 9:43 am to
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We weren't talking about last year, when he wasn't the starter all year.


He sucked in 2016 when our oline was great. Thats why I used 2016. Also no one mentioned 2015. While our oline wasnt as good in 2015, his pocket awareness and an inability to be a full field progression qb didnt hell our oline. How many times did you ever see Harris step up in the pocket? How many time did you see Harris retreat into the back field and run right into a sack? It's one thing to blame oline when we are calling 5 and 7 step drops. Its another to blame oline when we Harris is missing on short routes that dont need to the oline to block for more than 2/3 seconds.

I agree our oline had some weaknesses but you saw how much better our pass blocking was once Etling be Me the starter.he maneuvers in the pocket while always keeping his eyes down the field.
Posted by Mr. Wayne
Member since Feb 2008
10085 posts
Posted on 3/30/17 at 9:43 am to
I don't have any problems with his answers. You can tell he really wanted to succeed here and that he is a little upset he wasn't going to have another shot to bring LSU to the top. I agree with him about not getting a shot again last season. Etling was abysmal against Bama and that game plan looked like Miles had snuck back on the sideline and stolen the headset. The only games Etling did well in were when we actually had an open offense. Against tough D's O wanted to go conservative and we saw typical LSU QB football.

Everyone crapping on him for being too emotional are the same one's that get pissed when an in-state player goes elsewhere. Harris made a mistake coming here when he without a doubt would have done better in a spread.
Posted by Rickdaddy4188
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2011
48098 posts
Posted on 3/30/17 at 9:44 am to
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Yet he started here. What's that tell you of Miles?


That we were very young in 2014.
Posted by lsu711
Member since Sep 2003
14906 posts
Posted on 3/30/17 at 9:46 am to
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he didn't blame Moreau dumb arse.


He did politely offer an excuse for Moreau's mistake by pointing out Moreau was only a freshman.

The best part about the interview was he never said Brandon Harris is working on X, Y and Z to be a better QB. He only needs less Cam and more Fedora.
Posted by Rickdaddy4188
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2011
48098 posts
Posted on 3/30/17 at 9:49 am to
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Against a depleted defensive line that we were supposed to do well against but we still couldn't score in the red zone.


Our oline cant call plays. Our oline cant make our special team not frick up fgs.
Our oline cant make Guice run the right way. Our oline cant stop our Head coach from letting a clearly injured LF play over a healthy Guice.
Posted by thunderbird1100
GSU Eagles fan
Member since Oct 2007
71930 posts
Posted on 3/30/17 at 10:42 am to
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bullshite. He gets the ball right where a rb would get it. If we are taking away Chark's carries then we should take every stretch or outside run.



There is a gigantic difference in taking a jet sweep as a motion WR where you literally run around the OL and a toss sweep as a RB where you're still OL dependent on how they block for you in the direction you're going. All the OL has to do on a jet sweep is not massively screw up, they dont even need to block remotely well beyond that because the motion WR is well beyond the tackle box shortly after he gets the ball. It's fairly irrelevant to what the OL does and way more so how things are blocked on the edge. There's a reason jet sweep type players have huge average rushing stats, because they dont really deal with players in the tackle box and how the OL blocks. It's really about who gets blocked out on the edge.


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What? In no way is 4 ypc not good.



4.0 ypc is VERY low for college.
LINK

That would be 98th in the country on average last year at 4.0 ypc. Do you think 98th out of 128 teams is "good"?


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Of course you wouldn't because you're trying to argue against our oline being one of the best in cfb.



Of course you would disagree because you think because a site says our OL is the best they played the best in every game. Anyone who watched the Bama or UF games last year knows they didn't play well in those games. We scored a combined 10 points in those 2 games...largely because we couldn't control the LOS.

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Our oline played well against Florida.



If they played well we would have scored more than 10 points. Again, we had 10 rushes after that first drive in goal to go situations that netted us THREE points. That's really bad. They simply could not win the battle at the LOS when it mattered. Also, 4.0 ypc is not a good showing for an OL. It's not bad, but it's far from good. They played "well" right up until it mattered inside the goal line.
This post was edited on 3/30/17 at 10:44 am
Posted by thunderbird1100
GSU Eagles fan
Member since Oct 2007
71930 posts
Posted on 3/30/17 at 10:48 am to
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I dont understand how anyone could say our oline didnt play good against florida.



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We threw up on ourselves in the red zone.



There you go, thanks in large part to the OL failing to block well down there. Doesn't matter so much if you can block until you get in the redzone which results in you getting only 10 points in a game.
Posted by Tiny Rick
In a vat in the garage
Member since Jan 2016
1517 posts
Posted on 3/30/17 at 11:07 am to
The problem in this thread is the faulty logic of you are either a complete supporter of Brandon Harris or completely against him and that's not the case with everyone. Critiquing everything as a whole is where we should be but many people fail to do. Football is a huge TEAM sport.

The only constant over the years was Miles and he's now gone. I look at it from an investment stand point. He gave you returns that were good (9-10 win seasons) but as a fan base the trend wasn't looking so good. The risk started to rear its head and we sold off to preserve what we had established.

Harris, the offense and the team as a whole were led on a consistent path based on those "returns" while the rest of College Football adapted and made strides that trended their respective programs upward (for the most part). Les remained stagnant in the approach and other teams after seeing the same song and dance for years began to adjust to beat us. So as the saying goes "if you can't change the people. CHANGE the people."
Posted by BilJ
Member since Sep 2003
162441 posts
Posted on 3/30/17 at 11:13 am to
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I don't have any problems with his answers. You can tell he really wanted to succeed here and that he is a little upset he wasn't going to have another shot to bring LSU to the top. I agree with him about not getting a shot again last season. Etling was abysmal against Bama and that game plan looked like Miles had snuck back on the sideline and stolen the headset. The only games Etling did well in were when we actually had an open offense. Against tough D's O wanted to go conservative and we saw typical LSU QB football.


He needs to take ownership of a few things though. Yes Miles and Cam were an incredible duo of shitty QB development. There was still a lot of basic shite that Brandon was completely incapable of doing, like say I don't know make a half way decent throw to a wide open Fournette out of the backfield. Is that Les and Cam's fault you were completely incapable of making basic throws? Not even going to get into the guy's complete inability to even get a basic understanding of the offense. Even heard rumors they tried turning stuff into rap lyrics to help him out

Yes you could argue he should have gotten another shot this past year, but I'd say his pouting after deservedly losing the job is what cost him that. Miles & Cam account for a large % of his failure, but Brandon should own some of it himself as well.
Posted by the LSUSaint
Member since Nov 2009
15444 posts
Posted on 3/30/17 at 11:16 am to
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That we were very young in 2014.


And who's fault was that
Posted by Lonnie4LSU
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2008
9525 posts
Posted on 3/30/17 at 11:34 am to
"Adjust to beat us"

In his last 5 yrs, LSU won more games than Nick won in his 5 yrs and people worshipped the ground Nick walked on even though in the end LSU wasn't good enough for Nick.

As I have said many times, 10 L's in his last 2 yrs and 4 games is not acceptable at LSU. Miles has no one to blame but himself for his dismissal.

" to persevere "

While I certainly hope Coach O turns out to be the man for the job, never in my wildest dreams did I envision this program being turned over to a DL coach with a highly questionable HC resume. Just saying that "to persevere" I don't know bout but I hope.
Posted by mmcgrath
Indianapolis
Member since Feb 2010
37240 posts
Posted on 3/30/17 at 11:36 am to
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Tell me about Larry Fedora’s system.

It’s what I ran in high school. He’s got a number of quarterbacks who have been successful over a career. He made me feel wanted. I couldn’t pass it up. His way to adapt a quarterback … he runs the offense. He assured me I was going to throw it more than 16 times a game and maybe even during the first quarter.
I worry that he is a little overconfident in his ability to win the starting gig.
Posted by Nuts4LSU
Washington, DC
Member since Oct 2003
25468 posts
Posted on 3/30/17 at 11:36 am to
Wow, that was a very good interview. I'm glad he was honest without being bitter. He seems very mature for his young age. I hope he has a great season at North Carolina.
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