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re: Will LSU make the NCAA tournament?
Posted on 2/19/16 at 11:35 am to KingCakeBABY
Posted on 2/19/16 at 11:35 am to KingCakeBABY
IMO at this point we need to win the SEC season, or the SEC Tourney to have a chance. Right now I think we are out for sure
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Posted on 2/19/16 at 11:36 am to lsugrad35
Aint gon happen. The committee don't want to fall victim to putting Ben in the tournament cause of Star quality. They will catch hell if a bad Lsu team makes it.
Posted on 2/19/16 at 11:38 am to KingCakeBABY
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If Ben Simmons is so great shouldn't he be carrying us to victory against shite teams? The Bama loss is so embarrassing.
What shite team has LSU lost to since SEC play? Bama is a top 50 rpi and very hot right now. Is not an excuse and LSU should not have lost that game they are better, but people thinking that Wednesday night was the end of the season are way too shortsighted and need to move on.
Posted on 2/19/16 at 11:41 am to geauxtigers33
I dont think people think that the season ended wed, everyone can just see through this team and that they are really not that good. Thats the truth to it. They are very undercoached and very up or down. If they are hot they play well, if they arent hot they struggle with EVERYTHING. Teams like this dont get very far in March
Posted on 2/19/16 at 11:50 am to Tiger Nation 84
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I dont think people think that the season ended wed, everyone can just see through this team and that they are really not that good. Thats the truth to it. They are very undercoached and very up or down. If they are hot they play well, if they arent hot they struggle with EVERYTHING. Teams like this dont get very far in March
Look around the country you just described a lot of teams. Teams on the bubble all have deficiencies and have losses that is why they are on the bubble.
Posted on 2/19/16 at 11:50 am to KingCakeBABY
14-4 in conference obviously gets us in and wins the SEC title outright.
13-5 in conference gets us in, unless we lose our first game in the SEC Tournament to someone outside the RPI top 50 (so someone besides Alabama or Florida).
12-6 in conference gets us in if we win two games in the SEC Tournament (likely both against RPI top 50 teams).
13-5 in conference gets us in, unless we lose our first game in the SEC Tournament to someone outside the RPI top 50 (so someone besides Alabama or Florida).
12-6 in conference gets us in if we win two games in the SEC Tournament (likely both against RPI top 50 teams).
This post was edited on 2/19/16 at 11:51 am
Posted on 2/19/16 at 11:57 am to BayouBengals03
After the Bama game, the NIT execs be all like:
Posted on 2/19/16 at 11:58 am to KingCakeBABY
if we win the sec championship......we're in
if we win the sec tourney......we're in
if we win the sec tourney......we're in
Posted on 2/19/16 at 12:05 pm to KingCakeBABY
What would you rather have, a one and done tourney or an NIT championship?
Posted on 2/19/16 at 12:14 pm to wesman21
Posted this in another thread so here:
Real Talk. LSU in trouble but the whole Ben Simmons on the roster may save them.
If they go 4-1 (loss at UK) and end up with 2 seed then go 1-1 in SEC T (Loss in Conf Finals)... I legit don't think they get in unless Committee just wants Ben in.
That would be 21-12 with RPI in low 70s range but only 6-4 in the last 10 so not exactly a hot team. Only way they get in at that point is Simmons.
Essentially, finish regular season 5-0 OR 4-1 (L @ UK, only L they can take) + make SEC T Finals is the only way for the TEAM to have a case as an At Large.
Real Talk. LSU in trouble but the whole Ben Simmons on the roster may save them.
If they go 4-1 (loss at UK) and end up with 2 seed then go 1-1 in SEC T (Loss in Conf Finals)... I legit don't think they get in unless Committee just wants Ben in.
That would be 21-12 with RPI in low 70s range but only 6-4 in the last 10 so not exactly a hot team. Only way they get in at that point is Simmons.
Essentially, finish regular season 5-0 OR 4-1 (L @ UK, only L they can take) + make SEC T Finals is the only way for the TEAM to have a case as an At Large.
Posted on 2/19/16 at 12:20 pm to LMfan
No shot. They will undoubtedly lose at least 2 or 3 more
Posted on 2/19/16 at 1:12 pm to KingCakeBABY
Posted on 2/19/16 at 1:24 pm to Thurber
Oh well, looks like it's on to baseball season now.
Batter Up !!
Batter Up !!
Posted on 2/19/16 at 1:25 pm to Coach D
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Real Talk. LSU in trouble but the whole Ben Simmons on the roster may save them.
Two people who get paid to predict on a daily basis the teams that will reach the NCAA Tournament (Jerry Palm and Joe Lunardi) both independently said JUST THIS WEEK that there is no "Ben Simmons" factor in the eyes of the committee. Can we finally put this stupid notion to rest?
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If they go 4-1 (loss at UK) and end up with 2 seed then go 1-1 in SEC T (Loss in Conf Finals)... I legit don't think they get in unless Committee just wants Ben in
See above re: Simmons. Also, the committee has said in the past that results in conference tournaments aren't very significant in their decisions. The look at the season as a whole and have constantly said that the games in Nov. count just as much as the game in March.
If LSU goes 4-1 (with the one loss being at UK), that means they will have a winning road record in SEC play (5-4). As Lunardi said in his interview early this week, road wins are like "Fort Knox" gold to the committee.
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That would be 21-12 with RPI in low 70s range but only 6-4 in the last 10 so not exactly a hot team. Only way they get in at that point is Simmons.
Nothing boosts your RPI like road wins. LSU currently sits around 80-81 in the RPI. If they go 4-1 down the stretch, that would include two road wins and a top-50 RPI win over Florida. Yes, Tenn and Ark aren't great teams, but it's not inconceivable that those wins could bring LSU's RPI into at least the mid-60's. Also, RPI may not the "end all be all" people think it is. The committee also requests the BPI reports, KenPom reports and other metrics.
As for whether or not LSU is a "hot" team at the end is completely irrelevant nowadays (it used to be a factor)
For example: UCLA finished 6-4 in their final 10 games last season including 1 game in the Pac-12 tourney (vs. the 12 seed USC). They still made the NCAA field
Ole Miss went 5-5 in their final 10 last season (1-4 in their final 5 games, including a loss to bad South Carolina team in their first game of the SECT). Ole Miss still made the NCAAT
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Essentially, finish regular season 5-0 OR 4-1 (L @ UK, only L they can take) + make SEC T Finals is the only way for the TEAM to have a case as an At Large.
No one is saying that LSU is "safe" in any way, shape, or form. However, to make such a definitive statement that this is LSU's "only way" to have a case for an At large bid is completely asinine. If you're going to make such a statement, at least have some evidence to back it up.
As they have done for the past few years, the NCAA did a "mock selection" with media members last week. All the bozos who are "well versed" on the committee's section process/criteria would be wise to do a bit of quick research into how the process takes place. Below is one of several articles about it.
LINK
The takes away from the mock selection process:
1. LSU was the "first team out" at the end of the process. However, this was prior to them winning vs A&M.
2. Quote from article: "Perhaps the media is tired of Ben Simmons, but LSU was not given the benefit of the doubt, despite injuries to key players Craig Victor and Keith Hornsby early in the season and recent victories over Kentucky and Vanderbilt."
Remember, this is the Media making the selections, not the committee. The committee Chairman (OU's AD) said recently that LSU being without Victor/Hornsby would definitely be a consideration because they have to look at the team that would be playing in March, not the line up in Nov. LSU without their 2nd and 3rd leading scorers is a COMPLETELY DIFFERENT team than the one with them.
Finally (and sadly) this is deja vu all over again. Last season LSU scored a good late season win vs. Ole Miss (just like they did against A&M this season). They followed it up by getting blasted, at home, by an average (at best) Tennessee team. They then went on the road and beat a then 13-4 Ark team, only to follow that up by losing again to a bad Auburn team in their first SECT game. Despite that roller coaster ending, LSU made it in relatively safely as a #9 seed
Posted on 2/19/16 at 1:39 pm to KingCakeBABY
I think that LSU will get into the dance somehow. Whether it be winning the SEC tourney or just plain luck. I think they get it done and get to second round or even the Sweet 16.
Posted on 2/19/16 at 1:48 pm to KingCakeBABY
Maybe
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Posted on 2/19/16 at 2:37 pm to Alt26
Finally (and sadly) this is deja vu all over again. Last season LSU scored a good late season win vs. Ole Miss (just like they did against A&M this season). They followed it up by getting blasted, at home, by an average (at best) Tennessee team. They then went on the road and beat a then 13-4 Ark team, only to follow that up by losing again to a bad Auburn team in their first SECT game. Despite that roller coaster ending, LSU made it in relatively safely as a #9 seed
The problem is last years pre conference results were much different and our record vs. tourney teams and top 50 wins was significantly different.
Even our road record last year was crazy good. we have none of those feathers this year. Face it 4-1 and a game or 2 in the tourney (12 loses for the year)or we'll be hosting the nit
The problem is last years pre conference results were much different and our record vs. tourney teams and top 50 wins was significantly different.
Even our road record last year was crazy good. we have none of those feathers this year. Face it 4-1 and a game or 2 in the tourney (12 loses for the year)or we'll be hosting the nit
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