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Posted on 12/10/08 at 7:15 am to
Posted by tjohn deaux
GA
Member since Feb 2007
10437 posts
Posted on 12/10/08 at 7:15 am to
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Miles has totally lost this team, so I don't expect any rapid improvement.



Posted by ironsides
Nashville, TN
Member since May 2006
8154 posts
Posted on 12/10/08 at 7:18 am to
Coaches that would be fired by the rant in their prime:
- Bear Bryant
- Joe Paterno
- Lou Holth
- Bobby Bowden

Chill the eff out ladies.
Posted by Mudminnow
Houston, TX
Member since Aug 2004
34214 posts
Posted on 12/10/08 at 9:31 am to
He is on the hot seat. LSu has too much money at stake through construction projects to sit through another year of destruction by Malleveto
Posted by triplesauce
new york
Member since Oct 2006
1471 posts
Posted on 12/10/08 at 9:35 am to
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Miles is not on the hot seat for 2009. 2010? ... possibly if things don't get better next season. Nonetheless, he is definitely not on the hot seat for 2009, nor should he be.


If Miles doesn't address the defensive issues on this team immediately he will lose this team and he'll officially be on the hot seat.
Posted by Macavity92
Member since Dec 2004
6349 posts
Posted on 12/10/08 at 9:41 am to
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Count Washington as a Loss if we keep Dc's


They went 0-12 this year. They have not talent. Sarkasian is not that good. We can go up there without a DC and win.
Posted by triplesauce
new york
Member since Oct 2006
1471 posts
Posted on 12/10/08 at 9:43 am to
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There's certainly a pattern here. The argument that Miles is a bad coach is silly and pointless. It is a historical fact that Miles is a good coach ... he's had one losing season his entire head coaching career (his first year at Oklahoma state). Is he the greatest coach in college football? No, definitely not ... but to imply that Miles is a bad coach is just silly.


You know what, I do think Miles is a good coach.

But what you did last year (with a team loaded with seniors at key positions and a ton of breaks) doesn't buy you the right to F-up next year.

If MIles pulls a Woody Hayes and punches someone in the face; he's gone.

And if he doesn't address the DC issue before 2009 he should be gone before the season starts.

LSU is a football school and you shouldn't get more than one mulligan.
Posted by Tiger1955
Bossier City
Member since Sep 2007
677 posts
Posted on 12/10/08 at 9:44 am to
He is not on the hot seat. We are not that bad. 3 of the losses this year were expected (Alabama, Georgia and Florida) because of our QB situation. The other 2 could have or should have gone the other way. We had a down year, next year we willbe back. No matter what I support the team and Coach Miles.
Posted by triplesauce
new york
Member since Oct 2006
1471 posts
Posted on 12/10/08 at 9:45 am to
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We would literally have to go 3-9 or worse for miles to lose his job next year



what is this vandy?
Posted by triplesauce
new york
Member since Oct 2006
1471 posts
Posted on 12/10/08 at 9:48 am to
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Wow, I'm glad you're not the AD. You would have fired Bear Bryant in 1970 !!$#!??!....

A national championship coach that goes...

1968: 8-3 with a loss in the Gator Bowl.
1969: 6-5 with a loss in the Liberty Bowl
1970: 6-5-1 with a tie in the Bluebonnet Bowl.
1971: DONHOGG as AD: Bye Bye Coach Bryant.




Yes, but there's a little thing called context.

If you go 7-5 and don't make changes that are glaringly obvious, then you need to go.

Miles has some strengths as a coach, but, call me crazy, I don't quite see the Bryant comparison yet.

Someone else could make a comparison to Larry Coker?
Posted by Macavity92
Member since Dec 2004
6349 posts
Posted on 12/10/08 at 9:49 am to
I know he is not on the hot seat. But someone said we could count UW as a loss if we do not get a new DC. I was responding to that. People that think we should get rid of an NC winning HC need to step away from the egg nog and enjoy the success that LSU football has had the last several years.
Posted by #1lsufan
South LA
Member since Jan 2004
1884 posts
Posted on 12/10/08 at 9:51 am to
Just knew an idiotic question like this would be asked.
Posted by triplesauce
new york
Member since Oct 2006
1471 posts
Posted on 12/10/08 at 9:54 am to
He is not on the hot seat. We are not that bad. 3 of the losses this year were expected (Alabama, Georgia and Florida) because of our QB situation. The other 2 could have or should have gone the other way. We had a down year, next year we willbe back. No matter what I support the team and Coach Miles.

No, we weren't expected to lose to Alabama before the season. No.

And the fact that Alabama improved throughout the year proves the axiom that if you're not moving forward, you're moving backward. Especially in this league.

So, all in all, we were only 3 games off the pace this season. People we won 7 games, four of which were OOC jokes. We won 3 conference games -- 2 against teams that lost their coaches at seasons end because they really sucked.
Posted by roygu
Member since Jan 2004
11718 posts
Posted on 12/10/08 at 11:00 am to
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We can go up there without a DC and win.



We couldn't beat R-Kansas and almost lost to Troy without a DC, what makes you think we could travel across country and beat Washington?
Posted by geaux99
Wamegeaux, KS
Member since Aug 2005
1628 posts
Posted on 12/10/08 at 12:07 pm to
No. Winning the NC in 2007 will, however. I don't see him getting canned for years.

The Miles standard from here on out (some may refer to this as the Dinardo standard) is to beat all of your rent-a-win teams, win no games of national (except as that of the "spoiler"), or conference significance, and play a bowl before 1/1 of every year.

We are the model of mediocrity in college football.
Posted by Damnstrong620
The Nation Of Buga
Member since Nov 2008
97 posts
Posted on 12/10/08 at 12:10 pm to
Miles job is NOT in jeopardy! The man just won a NC!
Posted by JPLSU1981
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2005
28372 posts
Posted on 12/10/08 at 12:11 pm to
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We are the model of mediocrity in college football.




There are quite a few Auburn, Clemson, Oregon, Florida State, South Carolina, Iowa, and Pittsburgh fans that would disagree with you, to name a few.
This post was edited on 12/10/08 at 12:13 pm
Posted by geaux99
Wamegeaux, KS
Member since Aug 2005
1628 posts
Posted on 12/10/08 at 12:14 pm to
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Yes, but there's a little thing called context.


No, no Tri, there is no such thing as context on the Rant. Miles won the NC in 2007 and that makes him the best coach in the SEC. You cannot add other factors into your analysis on the rant, lest you be flamed.
Posted by thetempleowl
dallas, tx
Member since Jul 2008
16010 posts
Posted on 12/10/08 at 3:56 pm to
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No, no Tri, there is no such thing as context on the Rant. Miles won the NC in 2007 and that makes him the best coach in the SEC. You cannot add other factors into your analysis on the rant, lest you be flamed.


Winning the 2007 national championship does not make him the best coach in the SEC. It makes him the most successful coach in the SEC, but not necessarily the best.

I think he takes too many chances to be a good coach. In 2007, because of a unique set of situations, we backed into the game. We lost a huge game to Arky at the end of the season, a game we happened to lose again this year.

Honestly this year we beat NO ONE of any significance. And we almost lost to auburn, SC, and troy.

We didn't play up to our talent which is a big problem. Sometimes that happens with a very young team, but it should raise some flags.

Overall, a coach who has been successful gets a bye once in a while. Having a bunch of seniors graduate and losing you qb was a bad blow to this team, but the team still underperformed.

This is his bye. He won't get canned next year unless he totally flubs, which he can't do because of the amount of talent he has. But if he doesn't show he is worth his salary by 2010, he might be in trouble.
Posted by Simplemaaan
Member since Sep 2007
4093 posts
Posted on 12/10/08 at 4:06 pm to
Miles will be there through 2010, unless RR leaves UM.
Posted by Genghis Khan
Mongolia
Member since Nov 2008
1702 posts
Posted on 12/10/08 at 6:14 pm to
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Miles won the NC in 2007 and that makes him the best coach in the SEC.


A coach can't be expected to turn a turd into a diamond in one season, but to take the brightest diamond in the league and turn it into a turd one agonizing game at a time is pretty enlightening...thus the hot seat.
This post was edited on 12/10/08 at 7:06 pm
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