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re: Advice for relative - Over 75 with 401K

Posted on 5/22/23 at 12:25 pm to
Posted by Tigerfan1274
Member since May 2019
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Posted on 5/22/23 at 12:25 pm to
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No offense, but if you're providing the advice and first instinct was withdraw it all and move to savings account, you shouldnt be offering any advice until you get informed. Seek a fee only fiduciary advisor that doesnt charge an assets under management fee. The relative did alright accruing $500k in 401k I'd guess they have at least a better clue what theyre doing than what you suggested right out the gate.


Wasn't my suggestion. It was a question that was posed to me. They had an old savings account that got updated to a 3% annual yield account and now they think that is great. I have no idea what they are looking for a this point. I'm a beneficiary but not part of a joint account. But I'm not the only beneficiary and I think another beneficiary is in their ear.
This post was edited on 5/22/23 at 12:26 pm
Posted by Drizzt
Cimmeria
Member since Aug 2013
14881 posts
Posted on 5/23/23 at 8:56 am to
I paid for in home care for my mother for two years. It cost about $35,000 a year for someone at $15 an hour but she got to stay in her bed in her home until she died. Assisted living would have been 2-3 times as much. Most people don’t realize that if you request hospice care for an older patient the get everything paid for like hospital bed, toileting equipment, health supplies, meals, weekly home health check, etc. We had a great experience with hospice. My paternal grandfather died in a shitty Medicare rehabilitation facility after a stroke where he shared a small room built out of cinder blocks with a roommate. My mother was not going to do that on my watch.
Posted by TorchtheFlyingTiger
1st coast
Member since Jan 2008
2995 posts
Posted on 5/23/23 at 9:40 am to
In lieu of doing the drastic step of liquidating and moving to a savings account, could rollover to an IRA and buy CDs.

Schwab is currently offering 5+% CD rates FDIC insured (I think they even spread across institutions so you can protect more than $250k).

I cant fathom how anyone would be advocating withdrawing and realizing taxes all at once just to get 3% bank savings rate which isnt even locked in.

Just show them this and point out the massive tax hit. They'd be paying 30%+ on much of the withdrawal!

I'd try to work with the other family member to get them better informed and on same page. Otherwise, they may eventually succeed in convincing elder to to make a terrible mistake.
Posted by Bdiddy
Member since Jul 2021
318 posts
Posted on 5/24/23 at 8:37 am to
I went a different route. I bought a LTC policy from a very strong company early on. I and my spouse each have a $300K benefit in today's dollars, compounding at 5%. I may die without using it, and hopefully will, but it should allow me to spend money without worrying that I will need it. It may not be enough to cover all of my expenses, but our other guaranteed income should easily cover it. Unfortunately, these polices are pretty expensive now, and it's a tough call.
Posted by Tigerfan1274
Member since May 2019
4504 posts
Posted on 5/27/23 at 7:21 am to
Appreciate your input and the tax chart. Definitely going to have that handy if this comes up again.
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