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Posted on 2/9/22 at 3:33 pm to
Posted by Rendevoustavern
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Posted on 2/9/22 at 3:33 pm to
ER 2/28
Likely RH was waiting for the memo that was just released to clarify.

I’m not sure how to feel. Here’s to hoping scripts have grown and continued decrease in negative cash burn.
Posted by oklahogjr
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Posted on 2/9/22 at 3:58 pm to
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I’m not sure how to feel. Here’s to hoping scripts have grown and continued decrease in negative cash burn.


Everyday i feel more i should have sold in the 30s and moved on as go it alone looks more likely.

My fear is that big pharma is just waiting on auph to be a little more desperate and take a lower price eventually anyways.
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Posted on 2/9/22 at 4:01 pm to
Of course fomo of a big time buyout is scary too
Posted by Rendevoustavern
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Posted on 2/9/22 at 7:48 pm to
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sold in the 30s


Hind sight is always 20:20 right. Hard to sell on smoke (news) when there is possibly a fire (BO) underlying.
To sell at $30 then BO at $60, that would be a ton of change left on the table and harder to accept than loosing 50% of unrealized value but still up 50% on initial investment. Of course the smartest would have sold, waited two weeks and bought back in at $15 but I forgot to engage that setting on my hot tub.

To your above point, BO fomo is the only reason I haven't walked away but that proverbial can has been kicked a long way since NOV...
Posted by ShootingsBricks4Life
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Posted on 2/16/22 at 11:42 am to
Almost back into the 20s today. BCRX is almost at the 20 mark as well.

Now if we can just get AKBA to follow suit...
Posted by bayoubengals88
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Posted on 2/16/22 at 12:07 pm to
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Almost back into the 20s today. BCRX is almost at the 20 mark as well.

What a joke today has been. Did y'all hear what Peter said this morning? That's why it spiked.

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Now if we can just get AKBA to follow suit...

Yes! Just lowered my cost basis this morning.
Posted by ShootingsBricks4Life
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Posted on 2/16/22 at 1:33 pm to
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What a joke today has been. Did y'all hear what Peter said this morning? That's why it spiked.



No. What was said? I still like BCRX and AUPH. I'm hoping AKBA pans out but I know this will be a long play so mentally I'm fine with it bouncing around.
Posted by oklahogjr
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Posted on 2/16/22 at 1:38 pm to
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y'all hear what Peter said this morning? That's why it spiked.

Been stuck in meetings all day. Read something about aggressive guidance coming with earnings? 200m this year revenue? Stocktwits is it's usual shitshow of no one knowing anything
Posted by Rendevoustavern
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Posted on 2/16/22 at 2:42 pm to
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Speaking at the Annual Leerink SVB Global Healthcare Conference on Wednesday, Greenleaf noted that "aggressive numbers will come from us,


This is all he said.

LINK

Eta: basically confirmed going alone.
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“We want to come and show numbers that we think we can achieve, but at the same time that I’m sure we have a lot of ambition as to how we want to grow the business,” Greenleaf concluded.
This post was edited on 2/16/22 at 2:45 pm
Posted by jmcwhrter
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Posted on 2/16/22 at 2:51 pm to
hopefully they're sitting on some monster numbers because his posturing has set it up for a big fall if they don't crush it at earnings
Posted by oklahogjr
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Posted on 2/16/22 at 3:15 pm to
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hopefully they're sitting on some monster numbers because his posturing has set it up for a big fall if they don't crush it at earnings


Probably sell some calls now honestly and then puts after the announcement
Posted by bayoubengals88
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Posted on 2/16/22 at 4:08 pm to
Since he’s always been so painfully conservative there’s little reason to doubt.
Posted by Saint5446
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Posted on 2/16/22 at 5:07 pm to
Is this sarcasm? I’m new to this stock.
Posted by bayoubengals88
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Posted on 2/16/22 at 5:45 pm to
It’s actually not sarcasm. PG has always been an under promise, over deliver type.
Posted by ShootingsBricks4Life
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Posted on 2/17/22 at 1:26 pm to
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It’s actually not sarcasm. PG has always been an under promise, over deliver type.



This is for BCRX not AUPH though correct? I'm confusing myself and I apologize for throwing BCRX/AKBA in here a good bit.

ETA: never mind! Ignore me. AUPH and Greenleaf. I've just been excited with BCRX recently. And bayoubengals88, I picked up another large chunk of AKBA.
This post was edited on 2/17/22 at 1:41 pm
Posted by oklahogjr
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Posted on 2/17/22 at 1:43 pm to
Both in my opinion undersold potential and have been for a while.

PG Is Auph CEO

JS I'd BCRX CEO.

PG hasn't given much of any guidance for this year because everyone assumed they were selling the company. They werent as conservative as bcrx was but still far from aggressive. We're expecting 40mill rev for 2021 so we will see if they got there or how much over they were. Estimated are 44millish


JS was overly cautious. Him not updating from estimated 550m peak sales to 1 billion was frustrating to wait for. went from decent drug to block buster level drug. I don't think they expected the market share they're stealing from existing patients to be so big.
This post was edited on 2/17/22 at 1:44 pm
Posted by ShootingsBricks4Life
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Posted on 2/17/22 at 1:54 pm to
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PG Is Auph CEO

JS I'd BCRX CEO.


Honest mistake on my part. Thank you for that.

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Him not updating from estimated 550m peak sales to 1 billion was frustrating to wait for. went from decent drug to block buster level drug. I don't think they expected the market share they're stealing from existing patients to be so big.


This is crazy to me. I want to start picking more of these up because I felt like I bought in late (around $12). Now I think this could get to $25-30ish per share unless that freakish jump was because of that monster sales leap.
Posted by oklahogjr
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Posted on 2/17/22 at 2:24 pm to
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This is crazy to me. I want to start picking more of these up because I felt like I bought in late (around $12). Now I think this could get to $25-30ish per share unless that freakish jump was because of that monster sales leap.

This is all very speculative and moving on rumor right now. Depending on if the news is good enough to live up to hype we may get great news for our value and see another decline
Posted by jmcwhrter
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Posted on 2/18/22 at 12:03 pm to
AUPH script numbers just aren't accelerating -- hopefully this last batch is an anomaly because YIKES

My biggest fear was that, even with the better drug, AUPH would not be able to convince doctors to use Lupkynis as well as GSK will be able to line pockets and get Benlysta out there

Going it alone means another capital raise soon, unless these sales numbers are REALLY good
Posted by oklahogjr
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Posted on 2/18/22 at 12:28 pm to
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Going it alone means another capital raise soon, unless these sales numbers are REALLY good

We did 40million in revenue this year if we're in target. No reason to believe we won't be right now.


But this aggressive guidance line scared me. Dtocktwits seems to think a 200million guidance and mid year breakevem number with a steady cash burn at 180 million.


I'm thinking to myself 100million would be pretty aggressive at over 100% increase year over year. But that probably means cash raise this year st some point.....

The 200mill guidance would mean a literal hockey stick type graph at some point and I'm just not seeing it with the prescription numbers we're seeing.
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