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re: Haynesville Shale
Posted on 6/28/08 at 8:33 am to toughtiger
Posted on 6/28/08 at 8:33 am to toughtiger
KCS (subsidiary of Petrohawk)has three wells permitted up there all in the North Carterville Field: Section 10, T 23N, R12W,10,800 feet, Serial No. 237564; Section 14, T 23N, R12W, 10,800 feet, Serial No. 237671; and Section 15, T 23N, R12W, 10,800 feet, Serial No. 237700.
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Posted on 6/28/08 at 9:20 am to Drillbit
Those are Cotton Valley wells.
Posted on 6/28/08 at 12:38 pm to pittboss33
Already a bunch of wells up there in the North Carterville that were drilled in the 1980's by Crystal. Different play altogether. Wells were average to above average in places.
Posted on 6/28/08 at 2:51 pm to justbill
Anybody want to advise me on this. Louisiana
right to caputre on a volunteer unit. Now the
part I don't understand. I never signed a lease
because I was never asked and didn't have any
knowledge of this well until just recently. I
politely but firmly asked to be paid and they
advised me they didn't have to. The LA dnr said
they didn't either. Can this be right. Now it
is a small parcel of land but it is mine. And with the Haynesville Shale- what happens if they
drill another one (there is only one well in this
unit now -been there since 1985 and never drilled
another one) Can they just take it and never have
to pay. Any input would be appreciated.
right to caputre on a volunteer unit. Now the
part I don't understand. I never signed a lease
because I was never asked and didn't have any
knowledge of this well until just recently. I
politely but firmly asked to be paid and they
advised me they didn't have to. The LA dnr said
they didn't either. Can this be right. Now it
is a small parcel of land but it is mine. And with the Haynesville Shale- what happens if they
drill another one (there is only one well in this
unit now -been there since 1985 and never drilled
another one) Can they just take it and never have
to pay. Any input would be appreciated.
Posted on 6/28/08 at 3:15 pm to Annie
quote:
Anybody want to advise me on this. Louisiana
right to caputre on a volunteer unit. Now the
part I don't understand. I never signed a lease
because I was never asked and didn't have any
knowledge of this well until just recently. I
politely but firmly asked to be paid and they
advised me they didn't have to. The LA dnr said
they didn't either. Can this be right. Now it
is a small parcel of land but it is mine. And with the Haynesville Shale- what happens if they
drill another one (there is only one well in this
unit now -been there since 1985 and never drilled
another one) Can they just take it and never have
to pay. Any input would be appreciated.
That's a complicated situation. Email your phone number to info@myoilpro.com and I'll discuss it with you.
Posted on 6/28/08 at 7:15 pm to justbill
Have 200 acres in sabine near zwolle, has anyone heard the latest offers in that area? land is near bayou scie church. any info appreciated
Posted on 6/28/08 at 10:34 pm to GeneralLee
Does any body have any information about East Texas, specifically Cass and Marion Counties??
Posted on 6/29/08 at 12:45 pm to TigerDog83
The Haynesville Shale play apparently extends to Township 23N. See DNR Field Order No. 329-C-1. There are some good wells up there, e.g., Serial Nos. 166065 and 167804, 10,975 and 11,120 feet respectively. These wells are in the Arcana Field, Field No. 0116.
Posted on 6/29/08 at 1:47 pm to Drillbit
Those field orders are for the Haynesville sand unit, which has nothing to do with the Haynesville Shale. 19 North is the northern boundary, where 3 test wells have been drilled with no shale present. A good indication of it being present is if XTO, HK, ECA, or CHK are leasing in the area and if the lease bonus is in the thousands.
Posted on 6/29/08 at 2:06 pm to pittboss33
quote:
The Haynesville Shale play apparently extends to Township 23N. See DNR Field Order No. 329-C-1. There are some good wells up there, e.g., Serial Nos. 166065 and 167804, 10,975 and 11,120 feet respectively. These wells are in the Arcana Field, Field No. 0116.
You're looking at Haynesville SAND wells. These wells were drilled in the 1980's by Crystal Oil. They are tight SANDS, not shales. This is part of the stateline trend that extends along the LA/ARK border over towards Claiborne Parish. You can easily tell this isn't the shale after looking at well logs, unit hearings, etc. Also, the shale doesn't make any condensate, which these wells have done since they were drilled in the 1980's. I suggest you look at the presentations from Petrohawk and Comstock which show the northern limits of the play right at Township 19N/20N. Looking at Sonris for an hour or finding a couple of maps doesn't mean somebody can say the shale is suddenly present somewhere that drilling has already confirmed it doesn't exist.
Posted on 6/29/08 at 3:21 pm to TigerDog83
Tigerdog, and others in the know, I've been following this thread and learning from your posts. Thank you! My question: have you heard/do you think 15N 10W looks like it's in the Hayneville play (western Bienville parish very close to Bossier parish line)? Any thoughts/comments are appreciated!
Posted on 6/29/08 at 7:04 pm to pittboss33
quote:
A good indication of it being present is if XTO,HK,ECA,or CHK are leasing in the area and if bonuses are in the thousands.
XTO,......HK,......ECA,....CHK.. Yep!!!! Those are some of the same gentlemen that are over here still trying to lease in the hundreds.With such a small amount of depth separating Lower Cotton Valley and Upper Haynesville,exactly how do you differentiate between the two zones? Especially when you consider that the zone is deeper in some areas and that the Shale runs thick and thin throughout the Play.
Posted on 6/29/08 at 7:35 pm to snakestewart
For one thing, around 1,000' more or less separates the Haynesville fomration from the Cotton Valley formation, although that may vary. Not exactly a small amount of depth. Also, almost all the targeted Cotton Valley zones in Northwest Louisiana are sandstones. Until the shale was found only the Haynesville sand was targeted along the Stateline trend of LA/ARK in the Haynesville package. Sands are easily differentiated by looking at well logs. Anybody with minimal experience can interpret the curves on a log to see where sands exist. Also, well control can tell drillers where the Haynesville shale lies. The Haynesville shale that is currently of high interest in the area is overpressured, and requires a high mud weight while drilling. Anytime that wells were drilled with a "normal" mudweight, this is one indication the Haynesville shale is not present. This coupled with log analysis and the recent string of dry holes drilled right around Benton are what has told the industry the shale is not present and or does not contain gas North of the Township 19 North-Township 20 North area. To the South and West there is not enough well control to currently define the limits of the play. To the East it will just be too deep to be economical once you enter parts of Bienville Parish and such.
This post was edited on 6/29/08 at 7:41 pm
Posted on 6/29/08 at 7:40 pm to TigerDog83
quote:
Tigerdog, and others in the know, I've been following this thread and learning from your posts. Thank you! My question: have you heard/do you think 15N 10W looks like it's in the Hayneville play (western Bienville parish very close to Bossier parish line)? Any thoughts/comments are appreciated!
That part of Bienville parish is probably going to be the pretty prospective for the shale. Once you get around Minden up towards Webster the shale is likely to be either thinner or not present. Not sure what the lease bonus rates are, but I would think you are in a really good area there especially since you are located so close to Elm Grove. From what most of the big players are talking about, the people from I-20 and North probably will not see a whole lot of action for the shale going that way. Until some wells are drilled near you that test the shale to determine it's properties (thickness, organic content, Kerogen content, porosity, etc) then it cannot be confirmed how exactly how productive the shale will be, but you should get a good bonus there and have a good shot at having some good wells drilled.
This post was edited on 6/29/08 at 8:01 pm
Posted on 6/29/08 at 8:11 pm to TigerDog83
Thanks for your response.I was looking at a report titled : Louisiana Wellbore Completion Schematics and Formation Tops that showed the Eocene Claiborne Group at about 800' all the way down to Buckner (14,000)and Smackover(15,000).They showed the Top Cotton Valley @ 11,500' and Top Haynesville @ 12,000'. I assumed that for there to be a lower C.V. as is listed in The Times in O & G section that it would have to fall somewhere in between.That is what gave me the impression that they could be confused from a depth only analysis.I made a copy but it has been a couple of weeks and I dont know the URL as to its location online and I can't seem to figure out how to scan and attach it. 
Thanks again for the response.Hopefully we as rookies are at least entertaining to you guy's. Have a Good Evening.
Thanks again for the response.Hopefully we as rookies are at least entertaining to you guy's. Have a Good Evening.Posted on 6/29/08 at 11:26 pm to TigerDog83
quote:
The going rate in the area was something like $100-200 per rod.
What's a rod?
thanks
Posted on 6/29/08 at 11:51 pm to TigerDog83
TigerDog,
I have read a lot of your post and have learned a lot more than I knew a few weeks ago.
I have some land (small amount) in 15N, 16W, Sec. 25. Is it in a good location for the Haynesville Shale play. If so, how good.
Thanks
I have read a lot of your post and have learned a lot more than I knew a few weeks ago.
I have some land (small amount) in 15N, 16W, Sec. 25. Is it in a good location for the Haynesville Shale play. If so, how good.
Thanks
Posted on 6/30/08 at 12:31 am to justbill
quote:
CV RA Smith #1 or whatever. That would be Cotton Valley Reservoir A Smith #1
Found our well , it's Cotton Valley, Reservoir A, SUA, name. Plain Dealing Field.
Wondering what the SUA means?
Our well is Active/Producing, 11K depth.
All others except one other active/producing in group are either abandoned/plugged, dry/plugged, or permit expired.
Trying to learn the info is taxing, but sooo interesting.
Thanks for everyone's expertise.
Posted on 6/30/08 at 6:02 am to lorilemaris
Just trying this question again. We're down in BR and kind of out of the loop on this. Thanks to all for this thread--very informative...
Previous Post:
I'm curious. My mother, my three brothers and I have 30 acres in Sect. 16 (section never drilled) just about a mile south of Stanley in DeSoto Parish. We leased (unfortunately, I guess) last year for around $400 and a 1/5 royalty. Oh well, that's water under the bridge. We gave all the lease payments to Mom anyway.
Is this likely good territory in the HS?
Previous Post:
I'm curious. My mother, my three brothers and I have 30 acres in Sect. 16 (section never drilled) just about a mile south of Stanley in DeSoto Parish. We leased (unfortunately, I guess) last year for around $400 and a 1/5 royalty. Oh well, that's water under the bridge. We gave all the lease payments to Mom anyway.
Is this likely good territory in the HS?
Posted on 6/30/08 at 6:44 am to nolajane
quote:
Tigerdog, and others in the know, I've been following this thread and learning from your posts. Thank you! My question: have you heard/do you think 15N 10W looks like it's in the Hayneville play (western Bienville parish very close to Bossier parish line)? Any thoughts/comments are appreciated!
Nolajane,
My company is leasing in that area of Bienville Parish. If you're interested, contact me at tigerheel@hotmail.com with your description and I'll get somebody in touch with you.
-th99
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