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Posted on 7/10/08 at 12:56 pm to
Posted by gingles
Baton Rouge
Member since Jun 2008
213 posts
Posted on 7/10/08 at 12:56 pm to
Are any wells being drilled (or will they be drilled soon) to probe the southern, southwestern, southeastern limits of the shale?
Posted by Rae
Member since Jul 2008
2 posts
Posted on 7/10/08 at 2:47 pm to
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Magnolia
Haynesville Shale
I was in the Natchitoches Parish courthouse. Clerk's office was VERY busy today with landmen. One enployee said they are very secretive. If you go near their papers, they turn them over. All recently filed leases are in north Natch. Parish but they don't have to file leases immediately. Doesn't appear to be over here.



Anyone know of anything that might explain the increased activity in the Natchitoches Parish courthouse as indicated above? Thanks. . .
Posted by king john
Member since Jul 2008
1 post
Posted on 7/10/08 at 4:48 pm to
has anyone heard of cotten valley wells being re-completed to h-shale wells?
Posted by lorilemaris
Georgia
Member since Jun 2008
27 posts
Posted on 7/10/08 at 5:36 pm to
dsquareg
quote:

I recently leased my Bossier land North of PD within the bonus price range mentioned in earlier posts after becoming convinced HS petered out south of me and after reviewing past drilling activity. Most of the activity in that area was in the 1980s, almost 280 completed wells in T23N for instance, with around 60 still in production! Haynesville Sand, Cotton Valley, Pettet Lime, and other zones all produced at one time or another. The larger percentage have been oil but some are gas. None are big producers, a few bbl or a few thousand cfe per day. Serveral others are shown as being reworked an/or injected. The OG was willing to exclude the Haynesville Shale from my lease to get the deal done. I was very willing to exclude it to get on with any exploitation of the other zones!

One of those T23N wells still producing is my grandfather's(we're recent heirs). It 'spudded' in 1981(whatever that means).
What does excluding the Haynesville shale from a lease mean?
Thanks.
Posted by pittboss33
Bossier City
Member since Jul 2006
521 posts
Posted on 7/10/08 at 8:48 pm to
It means the oil company only has rights to zones other than the HS. If someone else wanted to lease the HS for big bucks later, they could. This is assuming of course there is any shale under the land. In PD's case, there is no shale so it is just a way of assuring the lessor.
Posted by lorilemaris
Georgia
Member since Jun 2008
27 posts
Posted on 7/10/08 at 9:05 pm to
thanks.
Posted by oldawg44
Shreveport
Member since Jun 2008
9 posts
Posted on 7/10/08 at 10:19 pm to
Does anyone know how the shale looks around T19 14W? Any info on the Muslow well? Franks 22 went down 10800FT and they plan on going horizontal "later". I have been told that the "shale is there, just don't know how good it is." Nadel Gusmann is permitted to drill 4 wells in the Haynesville in this area. I was told it may be 6 months before someone goes horizontal up here. Thanks for any info!
Posted by beauthelab
Member since Feb 2008
4740 posts
Posted on 7/11/08 at 6:42 am to
quote:

It 'spudded' in 1981(whatever that means).

The 'spud' date is the date that they actually started drilling the well. Oil field lingo.
Posted by lorilemaris
Georgia
Member since Jun 2008
27 posts
Posted on 7/11/08 at 2:06 pm to
thanks
Posted by animallover
Shreveport
Member since Jun 2008
36 posts
Posted on 7/11/08 at 6:05 pm to
I just heard from a friend who has friends in Grand Cane area who got $27000 an acre to lease. Anyone heard about this?
Posted by Magnolia
Member since Jun 2008
6 posts
Posted on 7/11/08 at 6:18 pm to
Roads and pads are being built near the Messenger well for at least 3 more wells
Posted by CAD703X
Liberty Island
Member since Jul 2008
92613 posts
Posted on 7/11/08 at 7:01 pm to
So when the wells are actually drilled in 1-3 years..are we going to start a separate "HS Royalty" thread?
Posted by toughtiger
Member since Jun 2008
18 posts
Posted on 7/11/08 at 11:46 pm to
Acadiana, do you know who has the lease (250/25) you spoke of earlier? Also do you think that that gal from Atlanta and that other guy with land up there that you have been chatting with....are we all related????!!!At the very least our grandfathers and great-grandfathers prob. knew each other!
Posted by snakestewart
Doyline,La.
Member since Jun 2008
16 posts
Posted on 7/12/08 at 6:57 am to
(QUOTE) It means the oil company only has rights to zones other than the HS. If someone else wanted to lease the HS for big bucks later, they could.

What happens when they reclass or combine the zones? Like J-W is trying to doin Desoto right now.What exactly could an operator accomplish by doing this? Thanks.
This post was edited on 7/12/08 at 6:58 am
Posted by pittboss33
Bossier City
Member since Jul 2006
521 posts
Posted on 7/12/08 at 7:18 am to
The order numbers for the zones are stated in the clause along with the date the order numbers were created.
Posted by Latech80
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Jun 2008
26 posts
Posted on 7/12/08 at 7:51 am to
I'm sorry, but I'm not in my element when it comes to discussing gelogic formations. Can you identify the geographic dimensions of the Haynesville Sand formation? Any info on the Cotton Valley and Smackover formations would be welcome as well.

Thanks!
This post was edited on 7/12/08 at 7:54 am
Posted by bazeball
Equipped, not stripped.
Member since Jun 2006
556 posts
Posted on 7/12/08 at 9:09 am to
While reviewing PetroHawks application for unitizing an area on the Red River, I saw this phrase:

"Applicant has sought and received permission for waiver of the production test in the field policy to enable it to proceed to establish units for the Haynesville Zone, Reservoir A, in the Cedar Grove Field."

I haven't seen this on any of the other apps. Any ideas why they want the waiver?

Link to app: LINK
Posted by acadiana
Member since Jul 2008
110 posts
Posted on 7/12/08 at 9:17 am to
Toughtiger you can email me and i will send you the contact number to talk to about that lease(lsu2003@home-money.com) Also i don't think i'm related to anyone from there however I know pittboss has a long history of family from that area. In fact I beleive the land i own was once owned by his family! He has as of yet not answered my question if me and him have personnaly met. Pittboss i was told yesterday that there was going to be a lot of new activity in that area in regards to leasing in the coming months have you heard this?
Posted by TigerDog83
Member since Oct 2005
8808 posts
Posted on 7/12/08 at 9:28 am to
quote:

What happens when they reclass or combine the zones? Like J-W is trying to doin Desoto right now.What exactly could an operator accomplish by doing this? Thanks.


It doesn't really matter what they call the formation unless leases are past primary term. If the leases are still in primary term and have pugh clauses in them then it should not matter because drilling has to be done to the Haynesville to hold it and all depths above. Pugh clauses would adress this depth whether the zone was called Lower Cotton Valley or Haynesville. With primary term leases the only way this could benefit the operator is by keeping their activities secret from other operators. If the leases are past primary term then the operator could be trying this to hold the Haynesville through a re-definition of what the zone means. This would be advantageous to the operator. Knowing J-W and the area in question I think these leases are in the primary term since this is outside the Caspiana Cotton Valley area so the lessors are probably making a big deal over something that is insignificant in the long run. If J-W is pooling tracts here the lessors better stop holding out and lease or else J-W sounds like they'll be drilling. If you get too greedy instead of taking a good offer this is always a possibility especially when you only own less than 10 acres. A 2 acre tract is almost invisible to an operator in a 640 acre unit.
This post was edited on 7/12/08 at 10:18 am
Posted by Rantavious
Bossier ''get down'' City
Member since Jan 2007
2123 posts
Posted on 7/12/08 at 12:58 pm to
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Samson drilled a well to the shale (Muslow well 12-19N-15W), and they are currently fracing it.


Any new word TD83?
Also, I understand Petrohawk looks to drill in this township, can someone provide the serial number of the well so that I may follow it on sonris?
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