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re: Occupy wall street thread
Posted on 10/5/11 at 11:53 am to Tiger4
Posted on 10/5/11 at 11:53 am to Tiger4
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Explain. When I said "goods" that would not include cash for the purpose of the post.
I think that is perfectly legal under our current system.
The reason it doesn't exist is because it's a god awful stupid and inefficient system when used for 100% of transactions.
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Posted on 10/5/11 at 11:58 am to Tiger4
what about this one
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Really?
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“I’m not here because I don’t have a roof over my head or I lost my mortgage, or anything like that. I had a good job, but I don’t have a pension, my husband gets a pension. These young people aren’t going to have that,” she said. “If you don’t have a pension though, how would you live? That’s why there are so many old people living in poverty. And young people who don’t even have them. It’s not the way we should be thinking about this country. Our whole world is upside down, so we need to just recalibrate. We need to do a do over.”
Really?
Posted on 10/5/11 at 12:18 pm to whodatigahbait
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“If you don’t have a pension though, how would you live?
I have a novel fcking idea. How about they live within their means and save 10% of the check to invest over their 40 year working career so they will have a nice happy retirement. Bet they never thought of that idea.
Posted on 10/5/11 at 12:23 pm to TheHiddenFlask
quote:I agree. I just imagine hippies doing this in a commune and wanting the rest of society to be the same way.
I think that is perfectly legal under our current system.
The reason it doesn't exist is because it's a god awful stupid and inefficient system when used for 100% of transactions.
I don't think the person was referring to a "cashless society" where everyone receives money from the government on some digital device.
I am perplexed by your response. Were you replying to what I said, or adding to what I said?
This post was edited on 10/5/11 at 12:30 pm
Posted on 10/5/11 at 12:33 pm to notiger1997
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I have a novel fcking idea. How about they live within their means and save 10% of the check to invest over their 40 year working career so they will have a nice happy retirement. Bet they never thought of that idea.
For some reason, if they actually had the sense to save, I think they would have an issue with giving their savings over to wall street right now.
This post was edited on 10/5/11 at 12:34 pm
Posted on 10/5/11 at 12:48 pm to TheHiddenFlask
sounds like a big fan of socialism and maybe,just maybe COMMUNISM. WHat a tool.
Posted on 10/5/11 at 1:01 pm to Fat Bastard
I got called entitled yesterday because I didn't agree that college education should be free. He also thought debts should be forgiven.
I'm pretty liberal, but I'm thinking of grounding that so I don't have to be associated with these imbeciles.
I'm pretty liberal, but I'm thinking of grounding that so I don't have to be associated with these imbeciles.
Posted on 10/5/11 at 1:07 pm to NukemVol
quote:Wait, I would call someone who thought college edu should be free "entitled." Never heard of this expression.
I got called entitled yesterday because I didn't agree that college education should be free
Posted on 10/5/11 at 2:02 pm to Tiger4
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I don't think the person was referring to a "cashless society" where everyone receives money from the government on some digital device.
I didn't think that either. I think he was trying to say he only wanted barter, which is dumb. I think we actually agree on this.
Posted on 10/5/11 at 2:03 pm to NukemVol
quote:
He also thought debts should be forgiven.
This is probably the most naive/dumb thing I have ever heard. I better go out and purchase a ferrari and a mansion now
Posted on 10/5/11 at 3:30 pm to TheHiddenFlask
quote:Yes we do. I guess the hippie thought process is "The best way to get rid of the cost living is to get rid of money."
I didn't think that either. I think he was trying to say he only wanted barter, which is dumb. I think we actually agree on this.
Posted on 10/5/11 at 7:32 pm to TheHiddenFlask
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Demand one: Restoration of the living wage. This demand can only be met by ending "Freetrade" by re-imposing trade tariffs on all imported goods entering the American market to level the playing field for domestic family farming and domestic manufacturing as most nations that are dumping cheap products onto the American market have radical wage and environmental regulation advantages. Another policy that must be instituted is raise the minimum wage to twenty dollars an hr. Demand two: Institute a universal single payer healthcare system. To do this all private insurers must be banned from the healthcare market as their only effect on the health of patients is to take money away from doctors, nurses and hospitals preventing them from doing their jobs and hand that money to wall st. investors. Demand three: Guaranteed living wage income regardless of employment. Demand four: Free college education. Demand five: Begin a fast track process to bring the fossil fuel economy to an end while at the same bringing the alternative energy economy up to energy demand. Demand six: One trillion dollars in infrastructure (Water, Sewer, Rail, Roads and Bridges and Electrical Grid) spending now. Demand seven: One trillion dollars in ecological restoration planting forests, reestablishing wetlands and the natural flow of river systems and decommissioning of all of America's nuclear power plants. Demand eight: Racial and gender equal rights amendment. Demand nine: Open borders migration. anyone can travel anywhere to work and live. Demand ten: Bring American elections up to international standards of a paper ballot precinct counted and recounted in front of an independent and party observers system. Demand eleven: Immediate across the board debt forgiveness for all. Debt forgiveness of sovereign debt, commercial loans, home mortgages, home equity loans, credit card debt, student loans and personal loans now! All debt must be stricken from the "Books." World Bank Loans to all Nations, Bank to Bank Debt and all Bonds and Margin Call Debt in the stock market including all Derivatives or Credit Default Swaps, all 65 trillion dollars of them must also be stricken from the "Books." And I don't mean debt that is in default, I mean all debt on the entire planet period. Demand twelve: Outlaw all credit reporting agencies. Demand thirteen: Allow all workers to sign a ballot at any time during a union organizing campaign or at any time that represents their yeah or nay to having a union represent them in collective bargaining or to form a union. These demands will create so many jobs it will be completely impossible to fill them without an open borders policy. Lloyd J Hart 508-687-9153
This can't be right. Can it?
Posted on 10/5/11 at 8:25 pm to Tigerstudent08
It happens that I know someone who does legal work for the World Bank in central Africa. According to her, one of the major problems is that there is no credit reporting and foreclosures are legally banned.
Naturally, the consequence is that nobody in his right mind will lend any money either. This means that there is no way for people to get student loans, buy houses, etc. unless they were born into wealth.
Naturally, the consequence is that nobody in his right mind will lend any money either. This means that there is no way for people to get student loans, buy houses, etc. unless they were born into wealth.
Posted on 10/6/11 at 1:40 am to TheHiddenFlask
These are the same people that protest at the WTO meetings. I yawn at these radical crazies because once you realize what these people actually stand for the more you realize abortion has a purpose...
Posted on 10/6/11 at 9:18 am to Interception
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Fix #2 - Elliminate and abolish the Federal Reserve. The Federal Reserve, since its creation on Jekyll Island in 1913, has created Trillions of dollars of debt that the nation can never pay-off because the dollars printed are actually loans with interest due. It is mathematically impossible for the national debt to ever be repaid, because the national debt is being paid with debt, i.e. dollars. The dollar bills in everyones wallets are actually loans with interest due. The only way to end this, is to return the powers of the central bank over to the Treasury Department, where it should have been in the first place, then the dollars can be printed at zero interest to the federal government
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Posted on 10/6/11 at 10:09 am to TheHiddenFlask
Posted on 10/6/11 at 10:23 am to ZereauxSum
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Whats really sad I that there is enough sentiment against Wall Street right now that this had the potential to actually change things. They could have asked for better regulation on how banks conduct their business or better consumer protections. Instead, these morons decided to have a granola circle jerk and ask for the US to become communist.
Couldn't have said it better myself.
Posted on 10/6/11 at 10:26 am to kfizzle85
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kfizzle85
I can only assume this is in Houston?
Posted on 10/6/11 at 10:40 am to GulfCoastPoke
Yes, its in Houston. And we tried the regulations thing, its called Dodd-Frank. If politicians see an opportunity to fix something, they will invariably turn it into a partisan fight and just mess it up even more. :hatepoliticians:
Posted on 10/6/11 at 11:08 am to TheHiddenFlask
My favorite part of this is that every person there appears to be wearing logoed clothing.
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