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Posted on 7/29/11 at 3:47 pm to
Posted by TheHiddenFlask
The Welsh red light district
Member since Jul 2008
18384 posts
Posted on 7/29/11 at 3:47 pm to
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Really? So these guys/gals pulled their money out of the market before the crap hit the fan a few years ago? I did.



LINK

Try again.
Posted by Blakely Bimbo
Member since Dec 2010
1183 posts
Posted on 7/29/11 at 3:49 pm to
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My fiancee is on my arse about locking in with our mortgage company. I dont want to lock in a 60 day lock @ 4.7 % when the daily rate rate now is around 4.5 % .



Uh...you might want to look for a more savvy fiancee. 20 years from now you won't regret it.

The only interest rates that are set by the FED are the target Fed Funds rate. With the over 2 trillion dollar balance sheet made up of interest sensitive securities, the FED does not want interest rates to rise.

The 10 year today hit a 2011 low of 2.77% You should negotiate for a lower rate.


Posted by Sigma
Fairhope, AL
Member since Dec 2005
3665 posts
Posted on 7/29/11 at 3:50 pm to
Whatever happened to the Colonel?
Posted by cyogi
Member since Feb 2009
5145 posts
Posted on 7/29/11 at 3:52 pm to
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Try again.


Good for him/her/you/them! Seriously. I know I wasn't the only one to pull my money out of stock.
Posted by TheHiddenFlask
The Welsh red light district
Member since Jul 2008
18384 posts
Posted on 7/29/11 at 3:54 pm to
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Good for him/her/you/them! Seriously. I know I wasn't the only one to pull my money out of stock.


Care to crawfish a little bit more?

How does anyone think that this strategy will work?
Posted by cyogi
Member since Feb 2009
5145 posts
Posted on 7/29/11 at 4:21 pm to
quote:


Care to crawfish a little bit more?

How does anyone think that this strategy will work?


You think rates aren't going to start going up? If not, why not? If they do, I mean, I'm not the expert, but it would seem the Fed would not dictate rates going up, but other factors.
Posted by Chris Farley
Regulating
Member since Sep 2009
4211 posts
Posted on 7/29/11 at 4:25 pm to
The Fed dictates "other factors" by moving the interest rate. I think you might be a little confused, but you have the biggest dick so who really gives a shite?
Posted by cyogi
Member since Feb 2009
5145 posts
Posted on 7/29/11 at 4:29 pm to
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The Fed dictates "other factors" by moving the interest rate. I think you might be a little confused, but you have the biggest dick so who really gives a shite?


if the US' credit rating goes down.... this doesn't affect interests rates, barring any Fed activity?


This post was edited on 7/29/11 at 4:41 pm
Posted by Chris Farley
Regulating
Member since Sep 2009
4211 posts
Posted on 7/29/11 at 4:41 pm to
Not the fed funds rate, no. But any rate determined by the open market, yes.
Posted by cyogi
Member since Feb 2009
5145 posts
Posted on 7/29/11 at 4:53 pm to
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Not the fed funds rate, no. But any rate determined by the open market, yes.


That's what I'm thinking... but do you think that if the market rates start going up, the Fed would follow? I'm thinking it's possible that the market will start "dictating", in a way, a rise in interest rates, and the Fed would follow... sort of "reverse" as to the Fed dropping/raising rates to control the market rate. I don't know if this is even feasible, but it seems we might start seeing this depending on how this stuff (debit "crisis") ends.
Posted by Chris Farley
Regulating
Member since Sep 2009
4211 posts
Posted on 7/29/11 at 5:00 pm to
No I seriously doubt the fed would do that. They have already stated the rates will likely remain the same for a significant period of time, possibly the rest of the year.
Posted by kfizzle85
Member since Dec 2005
22022 posts
Posted on 7/29/11 at 5:08 pm to
And you pulled your money out pre-08? That's impressive.
Posted by cyogi
Member since Feb 2009
5145 posts
Posted on 7/29/11 at 6:06 pm to
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And you pulled your money out pre-08? That's impressive.


Yes I did.
Posted by TheHiddenFlask
The Welsh red light district
Member since Jul 2008
18384 posts
Posted on 7/29/11 at 6:25 pm to
He also bought MSFT and WMT In 1985 pulled out in '99 then went all in on NFLX.
Posted by Athanatos
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2010
8181 posts
Posted on 7/29/11 at 7:16 pm to
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NFLX


My pager just went off.
Posted by LSUtoOmaha
Nashville
Member since Apr 2004
26725 posts
Posted on 7/29/11 at 9:40 pm to
Now this is a good thread.
Posted by WNCTiger
Member since Aug 2006
2883 posts
Posted on 7/30/11 at 8:23 am to
increased interest rates good for savers and encourages capital formation.

Current ZIRP encourages borrowing and speculation and hurts savers.

As a saver, I would appreciate some return on the money I'm attempting to save rather than being forced to put it into the highly speculative and risky ponzi scheme called the stock market to have a CHANCE to earn a rate of return exceeding inflation. Buy and hold is dead based on market performance since 2000.

Inflation is hurting everyone and the whole 'it will be a disaster if we don't raise the debt ceiling' argument to me appears to be a form of financial terrorism by the big banks and their lackeys err Congress.

IOW, they have a gun to granny's head and they're saying "either we borrow more money from our friends the bankers, or granny gets it.' IE we will reduce social security benefits.

The time for Congress to balance the budget is now.


Posted by TheHiddenFlask
The Welsh red light district
Member since Jul 2008
18384 posts
Posted on 7/30/11 at 9:36 am to
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Inflation is hurting everyone


I can always tell when people have no clue what they are talking about because for some reason, the general consensus among cable news economists is that we are in an inflationary environment.

I thought your interest rate spiel had some merit but was massively oversimplified. Your reference to congress as being in the pocket of "bankers" was just a cherry on top.

Please take that garbage to the poli talk board.
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