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Posted on 5/4/10 at 12:38 pm to LSURussian
quote:
How's MVIS doing today?
why so immature ?
and it's sitting at the same price it opened up at yesterday
This post was edited on 5/4/10 at 12:42 pm
Posted on 5/4/10 at 12:59 pm to LSURussian
quote:
I got a hot one :
RTK
how's the chart look on that dude
up 10% since my post yesterday
This post was edited on 5/4/10 at 1:00 pm
Posted on 5/4/10 at 1:00 pm to Zilla
quote:Your response made me look up MVIS. My response to you: why so sensitive? It's only down 15 cents today. From the way you responded I thought it must be down a buck minimum.
How's MVIS doing today?
why so immature ?
Posted on 5/4/10 at 1:06 pm to LSURussian
you expect me to believe that ? no way in hell you would post that without looking first
Posted on 5/4/10 at 1:07 pm to LSURussian
quote:
From the way you responded I thought it must be down a buck minimum.
what this :
quote:
and it's sitting at the same price it opened up at yesterday
oh wait, let me guess, you leave the window open and don't refresh but every 15 or 20 minutes right ? just a little FYI, edits have timestamps ;)
This post was edited on 5/4/10 at 1:08 pm
Posted on 5/4/10 at 1:11 pm to Zilla
quote:I have no idea what you're getting at. What did I edit? And, no, I don't follow MVIS. You should know that by now.
oh wait, let me guess, you leave the window open and don't refresh but every 15 or 20 minutes right ? just a little FYI, edits have timestamps ;)
ETA: Anyway, congrats on your other stock that is doing well today. Not many are.
This post was edited on 5/4/10 at 1:12 pm
Posted on 5/4/10 at 1:55 pm to LSURussian
your innocent naive playbook is overplayed sir ...but thanks...I nibbled a little at $1.12 ... remember, this is one of those stocks that you once referred to as "another one of Zilla's gems"
Posted on 5/4/10 at 1:59 pm to Zilla
What did I edit, zilla? I went back and looked and I didn't edit any posts responding to you other than the most recent one congratulating you on the up stock you have. So what are you referring to?
Posted on 5/4/10 at 2:45 pm to LSURussian
Why can't we all just get along?
P.S. Do either of you understand what Beta is?
P.S. Do either of you understand what Beta is?
Posted on 5/4/10 at 2:48 pm to TheHiddenFlask
quote:What would be the fun in that, Rodney?
Why can't we all just get along?
quote:I was in that club in high school. Does that help?
Do either of you understand what Beta is?
Posted on 5/4/10 at 2:52 pm to LSURussian
quote:
I was in that club in high school. Does that help?
That helps about as much as the 8 hours of discussion KFizz, Stick and I had about it.
Posted on 5/4/10 at 2:53 pm to LSURussian
Nobody has any insight on clean harbors? I hear they're getting the bulk of the clean up contracts n the gulf
Posted on 5/4/10 at 2:55 pm to TheHiddenFlask
I always thought beta = the comparison to market volatility. If beta = 1, the security approximately equals market volatility. A value > 1 = more volatility than the market average. Value < 1 = volatility less than the market average.
Did that definition change recently?
Did that definition change recently?
Posted on 5/4/10 at 2:59 pm to LSURussian
quote:
I always thought beta = the comparison to market volatility. If beta = 1, the security approximately equals market volatility. A value > 1 = more volatility than the market average. Value < 1 = volatility less than the market average.
We agree on this, the question comes with the assumption that a positive beta not only indicates level of volatility relative to the market, but also direction of volatility.
IE:
A stock with a beta of 1 goes up (on average) 1% for every 1% that the market goes up
A stock with a beta of -1 goes down (on average) 1% for every 1% that the market goes up
Posted on 5/4/10 at 3:02 pm to TheHiddenFlask
quote:I didn't know a stock could have a negative beta. I thought beta was 0.00 or greater. Can you give me an example of a stock with a negative beta?
A stock with a beta of 1 goes up (on average) 1% for every 1% that the market goes up
A stock with a beta of -1 goes down (on average) 1% for every 1% that the market goes up
ETA: I know inverse ETF's can have a negative beta, but what stock has a negative beta?
This post was edited on 5/4/10 at 3:12 pm
Posted on 5/4/10 at 3:13 pm to RedStickBR
quote:
I did a scan and came up with this:
# of stocks w/ Betas below 0: 72
# of stocks w/ Betas equal to 0: none
# of stocks w/ Betas between 0 and .49: 518
# of stocks w/ Betas between .5 and .99: 1,282
# of stocks w/ Betas between 1 and 1.49: 1,424
# of stocks w/ Betas between 1.5 and 1.99: 819
# of stocks w/ Betas greater than 2: 745
From RSBR.
Posted on 5/4/10 at 3:16 pm to TheHiddenFlask
Could you give me a stock symbol with a negative beta from the list?
Posted on 5/4/10 at 3:18 pm to TheHiddenFlask
THF, surely you understand BETA after that mental marathon we had! Wiki was the most accurate, more so, I might add, than any of the other literature we found on the web and the professors opinions we received 
quote:
By definition, the market itself has an underlying beta of 1.0, and individual stocks are ranked according to how much they deviate from the macro market (for simplicity purposes, the S&P 500 is usually used as a proxy for the market as a whole). A stock that swings more than the market (i.e. more volatile) over time has a beta whose absolute value is greater than 1.0. If a stock moves less than the market, the absolute value of the stock's beta is less than 1.0.
More specifically, a stock that has a beta of 2 follows the market in an overall decline or growth, but does so by a factor of 2; meaning when the market has an overall decline of 3% a stock with a beta of 2 will fall 6%. Betas can also be negative, meaning the stock moves in the opposite direction of the market: a stock with a beta of -3 would decline 9% when the market goes up 3% and conversely would climb 9% if the market fell by 3%.
Higher-beta stocks mean greater volatility and are therefore considered to be riskier, but are in turn supposed to provide a potential for higher returns; low-beta stocks pose less risk but also lower returns. In the same way a stock's beta shows its relation to market shifts, it also is used as an indicator for required returns on investment (ROI). If the market with a beta of 1 has an expected return increase of 8%, a stock with a beta of 1.5 should increase return by 12%.
Posted on 5/4/10 at 3:19 pm to LSURussian
quote:
Could you give me a stock symbol with a negative beta from the list?
Screen of stocks with Beta < 0:
LINK
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