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re: Three things that have helped shape your financial independence

Posted on 5/3/16 at 3:36 pm to
Posted by I Love Bama
Alabama
Member since Nov 2007
38433 posts
Posted on 5/3/16 at 3:36 pm to
1. Started reading about real estate investing when I was fifteen thanks to my dad giving me "Rich Dad Poor Dad" as a gift.

2. Bought real estate during the housing crash.

3. Surrounded myself with people who were more successful than myself. I really don't think I can stress enough how important this is.
Posted by SomeGuyFromLA
Texas
Member since Dec 2014
139 posts
Posted on 5/3/16 at 4:06 pm to
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3. Surrounded myself with people who were more successful than myself. I really don't think I can stress enough how important this is.



/thread. This is gold. It's been my experience that successful people, most of whom came from nothing, are very willing to share their experiences and give advice
Posted by JamalSanders
On a boat
Member since Jul 2015
12214 posts
Posted on 5/3/16 at 4:19 pm to
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Sometimes the struggle is the learning experience.


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ThatsAFactJack


As a relatively young guy who is $40k in debt (15 student loans and a truck).

1. Cooking at home is the best first date.
2. Getting a dog has saved me money.
3. Few feelings are better than paying off a loan.
Posted by wfallstiger
Wichita Falls, Texas
Member since Jun 2006
15001 posts
Posted on 5/3/16 at 5:58 pm to
1, yes

2, yes

3, nope, love cars, got upside down once, lesson learned,

4, fairly modest lifestyle

5, inheritance from parents, modest but very helpful,

6, who are the Jones that some speak of
Posted by Gevans17
Member since Dec 2007
1135 posts
Posted on 5/3/16 at 6:14 pm to
1 wife
1 house
drive cars until they die
Posted by theoldwiseone33
University of Louisiana
Member since May 2012
494 posts
Posted on 5/3/16 at 9:21 pm to
What city are you located? Would be happy to take you to lunch and pick your brain on real estate.
Posted by KillTheGophers
Member since Jan 2016
6762 posts
Posted on 5/3/16 at 10:45 pm to
1. I drive a 2005 Toyita Camry (I have a work vehicle as well)

2. I max out my 401k no matter what

3. I graduated college debt free

4. I bust my arse at work to always learn and improve myself - make myself a valuable employee - that mindset has paid huge dividends




Edit - I have one major money expenditure - I love golf and can afford to be a member at a nice golf club - love my time there....but I busted my arse for 20 years after graduating from college to get comfortable enough to commit to the club.

This post was edited on 5/3/16 at 10:52 pm
Posted by I Love Bama
Alabama
Member since Nov 2007
38433 posts
Posted on 5/4/16 at 7:01 am to
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What city are you located? Would be happy to take you to lunch and pick your brain on real estate.


Medellin, Colombia

Not kidding....
Posted by PeteRose
Hall of Fame
Member since Aug 2014
18009 posts
Posted on 5/4/16 at 7:41 am to
1. Learning what money is and isn't. What it can do and can't do.
2. Paid off student loan.
3. Reading and learning from people's mistakes.
Posted by Hawkeye95
Member since Dec 2013
20293 posts
Posted on 5/4/16 at 10:12 am to
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3. Surrounded myself with people who were more successful than myself. I really don't think I can stress enough how important this is.


Most of my friends are paycheck to paycheck, even those making 6 figures plus.
Posted by hungryone
river parishes
Member since Sep 2010
11987 posts
Posted on 5/4/16 at 10:28 am to
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Most of my friends are paycheck to paycheck, even those making 6 figures plus.

Ouch. I'd be thinking long and hard about such friends...what drives the excessive spending? Are you all secretly competing with one another? Find some more responsible friends. Live long enough, and you'll appreciate that some folks grow & change, while others get stuck in neutral. Nothing wrong with seeking out like minded people who share similar goals....
Posted by baobabtiger
Member since May 2009
4943 posts
Posted on 5/4/16 at 11:38 am to
1. Live within your means. Don't go into debt to live a certain "lifestyle".

2. Get out of debt and save for cars and rainy day funds.

3. Invest for a great retirement.
Posted by Hawkeye95
Member since Dec 2013
20293 posts
Posted on 5/4/16 at 11:54 am to
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Ouch. I'd be thinking long and hard about such friend

I am not going to stop being friends with someone just b.c they are bad at money.

And I think I might have been exaggerating on the most part. Most of my friends aren't paycheck to paycheck, but I do have several friends that fall into that bucket. And yes, several of them make over 6 figures.

I did a bit of thinking, and I do have a fair amount of friends that are ok money wise, but only 1 good friend that is a big time saver/investor.
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Nothing wrong with seeking out like minded people who share similar goals....

absolutely. The thing is most of my friends do not believe that financial independence is an achieveable goal. Even my good friend above, said realistically he is looking at 55 or so before he can retire. We do have some couple friends that are trying, but they are 15-20 years off from the goal where we are 3 or 4.

I do have family members with similar goals.
Posted by rocket31
Member since Jan 2008
41887 posts
Posted on 5/4/16 at 12:34 pm to
1. No wife ever

2. No kids ever

3. Smarter than most people (see #1 & #2)
Posted by 911Moto
Member since Sep 2013
5491 posts
Posted on 5/5/16 at 12:08 am to
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Find some more responsible friends


Wow. What a pompous, boneheaded statement. What makes his friends "irresponsible" just because they choose to live life to the fullest and enjoy every day instead of hoarding money. This may come as a surprise to you, but you can't take it with you when you die. Having a different financial philosophy doesn't make one irresponsible.
Posted by Larry Gooseman
Houston
Member since Mar 2014
2767 posts
Posted on 5/5/16 at 7:17 am to
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100% completely agree. The avg millionaire invests 20% of their income so if you can do 30% you are well on your way, if not already there.



So when we talk about % of investing, how would you break down 401k vs brokerage if you are saving 25% of monthly income?





Posted by hungryone
river parishes
Member since Sep 2010
11987 posts
Posted on 5/5/16 at 10:06 am to
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Having a different financial philosophy doesn't make one irresponsible.

Living paycheck to paycheck when you make over $100K isn't responsible, imho. I'm no fan of "hoarding" money, but I am a fan of personal responsibility. When you don't have any cash reserves yet make decent money (the definition of living paycheck to paycheck); when you are one health crisis/economic bump/fender-bender away from insolvency; when you can't delay immediate gratification long enough to save even a little bit, it's a problem. +$100K a year in my area puts you into the 1%--a "leadership" position, in essence. A place where you can possibly help others, enjoy life, and not become a burden to your family, children, or friends because you refuse to plan for the future.

There is plenty of room between "hoarding money" and failing to take responsibility for one's own future.
Posted by reb13
Member since May 2010
10905 posts
Posted on 5/5/16 at 12:02 pm to
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+$100K a year in my area puts you into the 1%--a "leadership" position, in essence


Well there you go, depending on where the guy lives 100k can go fast. While I do think as a single person making 100k you can live anywhere comfortably. But comfortable does not mean average in your social circle.
Posted by lynxcat
Member since Jan 2008
25099 posts
Posted on 5/5/16 at 2:28 pm to
100k is good but not amazing in large cities. For a single person it goes a long way unless you are in NYC or San Francisco. For a family in those areas, I can understand them being tight.

$100k in Memphis is living like $200k in NYC.
Posted by reb13
Member since May 2010
10905 posts
Posted on 5/5/16 at 2:37 pm to
Right, but as a single person you can live comfortably off 100k anywhere in the world. But also, if the company you keep's comfortable lifestyle is borderline exorbitant than 100k won't fit that mold.
This post was edited on 5/5/16 at 2:39 pm
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