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Posted on 10/2/12 at 9:39 am to Rockerbraves
Never understood why BREC dropped multiple millions into the Club House at Dumas....I played the course a few weeks ago, and it was in good shape (for Dumas) ...but there were only 4 other groups on the course.....I played in 2 hours or so....
Posted on 10/2/12 at 9:46 am to Rockerbraves
quote:That doesn't seem practical. More like I've never heard of that ever.
Would rather BREC start charging families who use playgrounds and dog parks than raise green fees.
Posted on 10/2/12 at 10:04 am to rmc
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Maybe 2-3 other groups were out there. One of the two marshals out there followed like 50 yards behind us the for most of the front nine.
you need to stop playing so slow and being a hack. your place on the course is directly behind hte group in front of you...not directly in front of the group behind you...
chew on that and get back to me
Posted on 10/2/12 at 10:14 am to The Sad Banana
This, unfortunately, is no surprise. Golf is in a bad shape all over the country financially...and it is actually one of my big worries over the next 20 years. I worry that the game with greatly decline with the lack of available playing opportunities for American youth. More so than ever, it seems, to succeed in the game you almost HAVE to grow up in an affluent/country club family and that divide is growing larger in my opinion. This is not good for those of us who love golf....
I agree with most in this thread who have said that you need to consolidate. I know it is pure politics and that's why many of the under-performing courses are still open, but sometimes you have to make tough choices to benefit the entire program.
I agree with most in this thread who have said that you need to consolidate. I know it is pure politics and that's why many of the under-performing courses are still open, but sometimes you have to make tough choices to benefit the entire program.
Posted on 10/2/12 at 10:20 am to 19thHole
first tee is prevalent. you live in a state (if you live in La. that is largely middle to low income...
Golf is strong in Houstonadn other big areas with more upper middle class folk
The main issue is too many golf courses were built during the boom in the mid-late 90s and now the market is correcting. BR doesn't need that many coursese.
Golf is strong in Houstonadn other big areas with more upper middle class folk
The main issue is too many golf courses were built during the boom in the mid-late 90s and now the market is correcting. BR doesn't need that many coursese.
Posted on 10/2/12 at 10:22 am to 19thHole
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More so than ever, it seems, to succeed in the game you almost HAVE to grow up in an affluent/country club family and that divide is growing larger in my opinion
I disagree that it's the worst it's ever been. It could be headed in that direction with declining interest, though. Over Tiger's reign, it was as accessible as it's ever been.
Posted on 10/2/12 at 10:29 am to Tiger Ryno
quote:
you need to stop playing so slow and being a hack. your place on the course is directly behind hte group in front of you...not directly in front of the group behind you... chew on that and get back to me
The other groups weren't in our sight while playing. Just say them making the turn while we tee'd off.
Posted on 10/2/12 at 10:38 am to Tiger Ryno
quote:
The main issue is too many golf courses were built during the boom in the mid-late 90s and now the market is correcting. BR doesn't need that many coursese.
The BREC courses were all built long before Tiger, with the exception of Beaver Creek. However, the market may be correcting itself in that the better golfers in the Baton Rouge area have more choices now in quality golf courses. So instead of a decent golfer having to go play the poorly manicured and/or crowded BREC courses, they can go play at a Beaver Creek, a much improved over the last 15 years Santa Maria, Carter Plantation, Greystone, Copper Mill, The Islands in Plaquemine, the Oaks at Sherwood is now public, or a more affordable Bluffs.
Before these better courses were built, Baton Rouge area golfers had no other options but to play the BREC courses.
Posted on 10/2/12 at 10:40 am to rmc
I think Howell will be shut down but no way do they shut Dumas down unless they can find someone to pay a good price for it.
I think what they should do is charge different rates based on time. Instead of just having a twilight fee, they should charge like 60 to play from 7-10, then 50 from 10-12, then 40 from 12-2, then $30 from then on. It's all about supply and demand. People always want to play early especially on weekends.
I think what they should do is charge different rates based on time. Instead of just having a twilight fee, they should charge like 60 to play from 7-10, then 50 from 10-12, then 40 from 12-2, then $30 from then on. It's all about supply and demand. People always want to play early especially on weekends.
Posted on 10/2/12 at 10:43 am to LSU1018
I like that idea
Posted on 10/2/12 at 10:48 am to iheartlsu
how much did BREC spend to improve the Highland Road park.....
Posted on 10/2/12 at 10:59 am to LSU1018
quote:
they should charge like 60 to play from 7-10, then 50 from 10-12, then 40 from 12-2, then $30 from then on
great in theory, but execution of that pay scale could only be done in probably two ways.
1) If you register for a tee time; say at 10am. You could not pay for that tee time until 9:50am, when everyone in the golf business knows you want to get to the course early and hit range balls. What do you do then, just give them the range token (in our case) and charge them later, or charge them for the range token, then have them come back in and pay for their green fee? What about a cart to go hit on the range before their tee time? Do you just give them one? Now, you could make everything included and raise the price slightly to say $57.
or
2) You pay at the time of your tee time then head out to the tee box.
The reason I gave scenario 1 is because if someone came in for at 10am tee time at 9am. The only thing keeping that person from paying a green fee $10 cheaper and going off at 9:30am are the volunteer marshals. It would be a fuster cluck of epic proportions.
Posted on 10/2/12 at 11:03 am to Guzzlingil
quote:
Never understood why BREC dropped multiple millions into the Club House at Dumas....I played the course a few weeks ago, and it was in good shape (for Dumas) ...but there were only 4 other groups on the course.....I played in 2 hours or so....
It really is hilarious. I took my daughter to greenwood on a sunday to go to the splash pad. You can imagine what transpired.
oh, and there were no golfers to be seen whatsoever.
Posted on 10/2/12 at 11:07 am to BeaverPRO
I think you charge them for the tee time they paid for when they arrive and keep a good marshall at the first tee. Most good courses have a Marshall at first tee with the tee time list anyway. I'm not saying this idea would work at all courses but I think you could definitely do something like this at Santa Maria and beaver.
Posted on 10/2/12 at 11:13 am to LSU1018
You could have the best marshal on the staff out on the 1st tee, and some golfer is going to pester him enough to get out on the course before his tee time, when the group behind him is paying the $60 greenie and is following procedure correctly...I'm not saying your idea is a bad one, just the execution could possibly be the downfall of that. I would rather only have to worry about the changing of fees once a day rather than 4 times.
Posted on 10/2/12 at 11:43 am to BeaverPRO
Yea I understand where you are coming from. I just think it could help courses make money bc I think the courses would stay booked up more.
Posted on 10/2/12 at 1:45 pm to LSU1018
quote:
I think what they should do is charge different rates based on time. Instead of just having a twilight fee, they should charge like 60 to play from 7-10, then 50 from 10-12, then 40 from 12-2, then $30 from then on. It's all about supply and demand. People always want to play early especially on weekends.
You know what? That's a damn good idea.
Howell and Dumas need to go regardless. Then see how everything shakes out.
Posted on 10/3/12 at 8:16 am to titmouse
quote:Perhaps lower the green fees back to where they were might increase traffic at those courses. BREC practically doubled their fees not that long ago. Now they have to compete against the better courses.
oh, and there were no golfers to be seen whatsoever
Posted on 10/3/12 at 9:06 am to elprez00
The BREC courses don't make money because the people working the desks pocket the money instead of writing the golfers in the log and putting the money in the register.
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