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re: DAT 2015-2016 Offseason Thread
Posted on 12/10/15 at 7:05 am to TrapperJohn
Posted on 12/10/15 at 7:05 am to TrapperJohn
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Posted on 12/10/15 at 7:13 am to msutiger
How many years is Giles under team control?
Posted on 12/10/15 at 7:15 am to GeauxAggie972
Believe I read 5
Posted on 12/10/15 at 8:33 am to Prominentwon
Pretty excited by this move, sucks to have to give up VV but you have to give quality to get quality. Will be interesting to see if they try and sign a FA starter or if they pursue a trade with someone.
Posted on 12/10/15 at 8:35 am to 225rumpshaker
I think Kazmir is the guy.
Posted on 12/10/15 at 8:38 am to Floating Change Up
quote:Wonder if his price was drove down by how he finished the year.
I think Kazmir is the guy.
Will be interesting to see which of the young pitchers takes a step forward this season (ala LMJ).
Posted on 12/10/15 at 8:39 am to 225rumpshaker
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Posted on 12/10/15 at 8:41 am to TexasTiger62
Well by adding a closer, your 7th and 8th inning options now are much much much better.
You can't forget just how much we leaned on Harris and Sipp in the 8th. They were pitching every night. Now we get back a healthy Neshek and a great 8th inning guy in Gregerson.
You can't forget just how much we leaned on Harris and Sipp in the 8th. They were pitching every night. Now we get back a healthy Neshek and a great 8th inning guy in Gregerson.
This post was edited on 12/10/15 at 8:44 am
Posted on 12/10/15 at 8:42 am to TexasTiger62
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for a pretty unproven bullpen guy,
If Giles is unproven, what do you call Eshelman?
Posted on 12/10/15 at 8:48 am to Prominentwon
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If Giles is unproven, what do you call Eshelman?
Haha significantly more unproven, he's only a prospect obviously. But we didn't just give up 4 players for him. That's my point, that Giles will probably be good, maybe even very good, but I am just concerned we gave up a lot for him. I supposse that's what the market dictates right now though.
Posted on 12/10/15 at 8:48 am to TexasTiger62
quote:The Astros literally have those guys in spades in the minors right now. It makes total sense to deal from a position of strength vs giving up some position player guys where they are thin.
think he can be a good 3/4 starter in a couple years
Plus Giles has 5 years of team control, he will be the closer on this every year playoff team until at least 2020. I see this as a win win for both teams but obviously helping the Astros much sooner.
Posted on 12/10/15 at 8:49 am to 225rumpshaker
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The Astros literally have those guys in spades in the minors right now. It makes total sense to deal from a position of strength vs giving up some position player guys where they are thin. Plus Giles has 5 years of team control, he will be the closer on this every year playoff team until at least 2020. I see this as a win win for both teams but obviously helping the Astros much sooner.
Good points and I agree.
Posted on 12/10/15 at 9:14 am to TexasTiger62
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Mark Berman ?@MarkBermanFox26 2m2 minutes ago
Free agent reliever Tony Sipp is returning to the #Astros.His deal will be done pending completion of his physical according to MLB sources
Posted on 12/10/15 at 9:19 am to Bunta
Hell yeah
Posted on 12/10/15 at 9:19 am to Bunta
Bullpen finished. Lets go get that rotation depth now.
Posted on 12/10/15 at 9:19 am to msutiger
Losing Eshelman and VV does kind of stink. Gaining Giles is huge though and instantly improves our bullpen dramatically. I really think Giles is a future great closer. He has all the "stuff" and the mindset to be one.
A high velocity closer is what we were really missing last season to come in and shut out games. Greggerson was good, but I really think he's better in a set up role.
I don't mind what we gave up to get him at all because I see his ceiling as higher than everyone we gave up.
A high velocity closer is what we were really missing last season to come in and shut out games. Greggerson was good, but I really think he's better in a set up role.
I don't mind what we gave up to get him at all because I see his ceiling as higher than everyone we gave up.
Posted on 12/10/15 at 9:20 am to Bunta
I love how Sipp has developed into a guy who can get hitters from both sides of the plate out. That change up to right handed bats is nasty.
Posted on 12/10/15 at 9:25 am to rlebl39
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Losing Eshelman and VV does kind of stink.
Agreed, but I think Houston has enough middle rotation pitching prospects to cover the loss of Eshelman. Had it only been VV, Obie, and Fisher for Giles, that would have been borderline trade rape hahaha but I think both teams come out ahead with Eshelman thrown in. If Giles continues what he has done for a year and a half now, I dont mind the move in the slightest.
Posted on 12/10/15 at 9:28 am to Jwho77
Posted on 12/10/15 at 9:34 am to Lou Pai
Nobody taken in the rule 5 so that's good
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