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Posted on 9/12/16 at 7:18 pm to Rickdaddy4188
Posted on 9/12/16 at 7:22 pm to Bench McElroy
He got replaced and never saw the field again. There is your answer.
Posted on 9/12/16 at 8:40 pm to Bench McElroy
He's right
Posted on 9/12/16 at 8:46 pm to Bench McElroy
He's not wrong.
Posted on 9/12/16 at 9:13 pm to Bench McElroy
I could see his point but like others have stated Brady hasn't played in the "same system" all these years. All four of those guys are/were great and in many cases you'd be splitting hairs trying to rank them.
Posted on 9/12/16 at 9:42 pm to 615tider
Manning is a much better pure quarterback than brady is.
Most football people think this and it isn't really close.
Manning took Jim fricking Caldwell to a super bowl. Think about that.
Bellicheck wins with who the frick ever behind center. Won 10 or 11 with Cassell and just won on the road at Arizona with Jimmy gorapollo (spell)
Bellicheck is the best coach ever in the NFL and I don't think that it's very close either.
Manning won whenever he went and did it with different people nearly every stop
Also, Tom Brady goes down, patriots win 10 or 11 and make playoffs.
Manning goes down and the colts WENT 2-14!!!!!
No debate.
Most football people think this and it isn't really close.
Manning took Jim fricking Caldwell to a super bowl. Think about that.
Bellicheck wins with who the frick ever behind center. Won 10 or 11 with Cassell and just won on the road at Arizona with Jimmy gorapollo (spell)
Bellicheck is the best coach ever in the NFL and I don't think that it's very close either.
Manning won whenever he went and did it with different people nearly every stop
Also, Tom Brady goes down, patriots win 10 or 11 and make playoffs.
Manning goes down and the colts WENT 2-14!!!!!
No debate.
This post was edited on 9/12/16 at 9:48 pm
Posted on 9/12/16 at 9:45 pm to WHATDOINO
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Manning won whenever he went and did it with different people nearly every stop
Let's not act like Manning went to Cleveland to play football. He played at Indy for most of his career and had pretty good players surrounding him on offense. The same thing goes for his time in Denver.
Posted on 9/12/16 at 9:47 pm to Rickdaddy4188
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Please tell me what points to brady being the better qb.
Not yards per season.
Not tds per season.
Not completion % per season.
Not completions per season.
Not qb rating per season.
4 > 2. That's the only stat that matters.
At the end of the day, a QB is judged by how many championships he brings home. That's the reason you play the game. That and to make money.
This post was edited on 9/12/16 at 9:48 pm
Posted on 9/12/16 at 9:49 pm to RollTide1987
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Let's not act like Manning went to Cleveland to play football. He played at Indy for most of his career and had pretty good players surrounding him on offense. The same thing goes for his time in Denver.
Hey bro, Indy went 2-14 without Manning. How did the patriots do without brady?
Posted on 9/12/16 at 9:53 pm to WHATDOINO
So the Colts won 8 fewer games in 2011 without Peyton while the Patriots won 7 fewer games in 2008 without Brady. Brilliant. 
This post was edited on 9/12/16 at 9:54 pm
Posted on 9/12/16 at 10:03 pm to Korin
2 wins to 10 proves the team aspect of this. Manning was the colts and the ONLY reason they were relevant.
The patriots are still a playoff team without brady. The colts were not.
Brilliant
The patriots are still a playoff team without brady. The colts were not.
Brilliant
Posted on 9/12/16 at 10:04 pm to WHATDOINO
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The patriots are still a playoff team without brady.
Sure about that?
Posted on 9/12/16 at 11:55 pm to WHATDOINO
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The patriots are still a playoff team without brady. The colts were not.
The Patriots were still the same team that had gone 16-0 in the regular season the year before, sans Brady. That team would have gone 15-1 or 14-2 with Brady at the helm. They might have won the Super Bowl. Instead...they didn't even go to the playoffs or win their division, despite winning 11 games.
Posted on 9/13/16 at 6:53 am to RollTide1987
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4>2. That's the only stat that matters.
Thanks for making my point for me. Team accomplishments.
Posted on 9/13/16 at 6:53 am to Korin
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So the Colts won 8 fewer games in 2011 without Peyton while the Patriots won 7 fewer games in 2008 without Brady. Brilliant.
Now use 2009 when Brady came back.
Posted on 9/13/16 at 6:57 am to RollTide1987
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The Patriots were still the same team that had gone 16-0 in the regular season the year before, sans Brady. That team would have gone 15-1 or 14-2 with Brady at the helm. They might have won the Super Bowl. Instead...they didn't even go to the playoffs or win their division, despite winning 11 games.
And what happened when brady came back in 2009?
Matt Cassel won more games in 2008 than Brady did in 2009. You love to act like you should only use 2007-2008 instead of 2008-2009.
The patriots won more game with Cassell in 2008 than with brady in 2009.
Posted on 9/13/16 at 7:19 am to Rickdaddy4188
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Matt Cassel won more games in 2008 than Brady did in 2009. You love to act like you should only use 2007-2008 instead of 2008-2009.
Posted on 9/13/16 at 7:46 am to RollTide1987
They also played the AFC and NFC West in 2008, the worst 2 divisions that year.
Posted on 9/13/16 at 8:00 am to 615tider
i was drunk last night
This post was edited on 9/13/16 at 8:03 am
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