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Posted on 5/1/12 at 11:10 am to H-Town Tiger
quote:If they turn out that good, then they will almost certainly be 1 or 2 on SC's schedule.
Notre Dame could be in the 2-4 range on LSU or Bama's schedule
quote:That seems quite a stretch, equating an 8-5 team with not one but two 11-2 teams that both finished in the top 10. Granted, one of them is in the midst of coaching instability (to say the least), but the talent is still there and Smith was part of the staff last year. And the Cocks look much better with Lattimore returning and no Garcia to bother with for half the season.
They are on par with Arky and USCe
As for ND being better than Florida or Auburn, that's possible. I really, really doubt it, and I would be stunned if they were better than both of them.
Posted on 5/1/12 at 11:11 am to usc6158
quote:
we staaaaaaaaaacked
oh, you're one of those guys
Posted on 5/1/12 at 11:11 am to SpartyGator
quote:
McCarron is a decent QB, and Lacy has shown signs of being a productive RB. Not exactly shite right there.
Average QB with no one to throw to + good not great running back = shitty offense.
Posted on 5/1/12 at 11:12 am to H-Town Tiger
quote:That's certainly possible. But it is also possible that Notre Dame turns it over a lot in the redzone again. I'm just pointing out that giving one team the benefit of presumptively overcoming their big obstacle is not a legitimate comparison.
You're right, the wheels could come off without Petrino
Posted on 5/1/12 at 11:12 am to VABuckeye
quote:
Any number of significant injuries and USC is in big trouble. Even worse so in 2013 and 2014.
75 on scholarship this year
65
and then 55. same as the football championship subdivision, aka D-1-AA
Posted on 5/1/12 at 11:14 am to Mr. Hangover
quote:
ban bet?
On what??????
Posted on 5/1/12 at 11:15 am to ottothewise
quote:
75 on scholarship this year
65
and then 55. same as the football championship subdivision, aka D-1-AA
This is completely incorrect
Posted on 5/1/12 at 11:15 am to ottothewise
quote:
65
and then 55. same as the football championship subdivision, aka D-1-AA
Posted on 5/1/12 at 11:15 am to H-Town Tiger
quote:
Notre Dame could be in the 2-4 range on LSU or Bama's schedule. They are on par with Arky and USCe. At this point they look better than Florida and Auburn.
ND literally has no QB.
Posted on 5/1/12 at 11:17 am to dukke v
i will take a 3 month ban bet with you that notre dame will NOT finish better than 2 games over .500.. and if i win, you take a 3 month ban
signed,
LSUomaha3
ETA : this goes for you or H Town Tiger, ya'll win, i stay away for SIX months if both of you agree
signed,
LSUomaha3
ETA : this goes for you or H Town Tiger, ya'll win, i stay away for SIX months if both of you agree
This post was edited on 5/1/12 at 11:20 am
Posted on 5/1/12 at 11:23 am to ottothewise
quote:
75 on scholarship this year
65
and then 55. same as the football championship subdivision, aka D-1-AA
They're still allowed 75 those years. The problem is that they'll only have 15 to give so attritution, early entries and career ending injuries could keep then from staying at 75.
Posted on 5/1/12 at 11:24 am to H-Town Tiger
quote:How marginal is it? Really?
but what most of you SECtards don't get is the difference is marginal
Last season (as noted in my sig quote), there was a six game, 4 team, round robin of the previous FIVE national champions in regular season SEC conference play alone. The last six national championships have been won by four different SEC teams. Last season, the National Championship competition didn't even involve anyone outside the SEC. At what point are you forced to acknowledge that the gap is not a narrow one?
Put it this way: IF there was a large gap between the SEC and everyone else, what results would be different from what we've seen?
quote:And in the SEC they were 7th. That's in the bottom half. And they could have finished 4th in an extremely top heavy Pac 12 behind top 10s Oregon, Stanford and SC, and ahead of unranked everyone else. No one else in the Pac 12 even received votes in the final polls. Hell, UL-L received more votes in the final polls than the other 9 Pac 12 teams combined! THAT'S a top-heavy conference. The SEC was far deeper AND far better at the top. That's not a narrow margin.
A team like Florida would not have won or even contended in the Pac 12 last year. At best they would have been 4th.
Posted on 5/1/12 at 11:25 am to Mr. Hangover
quote:
i will take a 3 month ban bet with you that notre dame will NOT finish better than 2 games over .500
So you are saying that ND will finish no better than 7-5????????? Well to be honest I hope you are right so I won't bet with someone on something we agree on.
Posted on 5/1/12 at 11:26 am to King Joey
quote:
Hell, UL-L received more votes in the final polls than the other 9 Pac 12 teams combined! THAT'S a top-heavy conference. The SEC was far deeper AND far better at the top. That's not a narrow margin.
very good point
Posted on 5/1/12 at 11:27 am to VABuckeye
quote:
They're still allowed 75 those years. The problem is that they'll only have 15 to give so attritution, early entries and career ending injuries could keep then from staying at 75.
correct but we will never get down to 55 like some hope will happen. for example this year we only have 13 seniors and obviously some players like Woods will go pro and others may transfer. However we have 18 slots to give away this year to get back up to 75 again next year.
Posted on 5/1/12 at 11:28 am to dukke v
my apologies duke, i misunderstood your post..
the offer is still out there for H Town though
the offer is still out there for H Town though
Posted on 5/1/12 at 11:34 am to H-Town Tiger
quote:Sorry, different discussion, then. I was talking about the jury being out on Stanford as regards SC's schedule in 2012, and responding to the claim that the "jury is still out" on Florida with Muschamp. Assuming Stanford will be an elite contender again without Luck or Harbaugh is as much of a stretch (I believe) as assuming Florida will be significantly improved over Muschamp's first year.
I never said anything about Stanford being a contender this year. My comments about Stanford were in regards to last year and your dishonest way of describing that game last year from USC's perspective.
quote:I don't see how you figure this. SC had a worse record vs. an easier schedule than either South Carolina or Arkansas. It seems like they would need a suprising leap forward in quality (and a significantly larger one than either of them makes) to overtake both of them.
If you exclude LSU and Alabama, Oregon and USC are better than every one else in the SEC.
Btw, is this still about whether SC at #1 is a credible prediction? I'm cool with the discussion evolving to something else. But if you are still talking about that, being better than all but 2 teams in the SEC is a far cry from landing at #1 in the nation.
Posted on 5/1/12 at 11:44 am to dukke v
quote:
Watch and see. Mich getting manhandled by Bama in the opener will have lasting effects. YES even three weeks later.
quote:
A shitload of FAIL in this post. Come on dude .you are better than this.
hold on no you ant
Posted on 5/1/12 at 11:45 am to RLDSC FAN
quote:
correct but we will never get down to 55 like some hope will happen. for example this year we only have 13 seniors and obviously some players like Woods will go pro and others may transfer. However we have 18 slots to give away this year to get back up to 75 again next year.
Understood. Kiffin did a great job front loading to get USC at max capacity before the sanctions hit. However, if you have 18 slots to give away this year you can only fill 15 of them. Early enrollees will now count against last (this) years 15 scholarship limit.
I think you guys will come out of it probably still at 75 but possibly as low as 68-70 entering the 2015 season. Nothing a full class can't correct right away. Just hope you don't get the injury bug or even though you have the correct number of scholarship players you won't have the correct number of healthy bodies.
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