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re: How would your school do vs. this schedule
Posted on 1/2/11 at 7:21 pm to trackfan
Posted on 1/2/11 at 7:21 pm to trackfan
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Is that supposed to be an impressive accomplishment to hang your hat on?
We beat 6, twice as many as TCU, but you don't see me begging for respect like a bum wanting change (which is what TCU is doing).
You'd think these guys went 13-0 while playing the top 13 teams in the country.
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Posted on 1/2/11 at 7:29 pm to GamecockAlum
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We beat 6, twice as many as TCU
So you do think Connecticut is a great team. That's really pathetic.
Posted on 1/2/11 at 7:31 pm to GamecockAlum
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What does that have to do with the fact that TCU played nobody this season and that every single SEC school would have gone at least 7-5 against their schedule with 6 more than likely going undefeated?
I never said TCU played a bunch of BCS teams so your question was just a lame attempt at an ah hah moment. Unlike you I understand there can be good teams outside of BCS conferences and shitty teams in BCS conferences. Most unbiased computer rankings have TCU's schedule in the middle of the pack/ a little lower. I also don't just judge teams based on who they play, but rather how they do against the teams they play. When a team is blowing out pretty much every team they play, its a good indicator they are much better than those teams, I also look at things like talent. If its so easy for teams with TCU or Boise schedule to go undefeated, how come other teams don't do it?
Its pretty obvious from your comments and this thread you are jealous that TCU has accomplished something and garnered acclaim your team most likely never will. Yes the SEC is best conference yet some one manages to finish with 0 or 1 loss and in the top 5 every year. What's the fewest amount of loses USCe has finished with since they joined the SEC? Its pretty easy for an SEC team to make a BCS bowl, even Arkansas can do it. Make it to a BCS game first, then whine about what teams accomplish that your team can't.
This post was edited on 1/2/11 at 7:44 pm
Posted on 1/2/11 at 7:31 pm to trackfan
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So you do think Connecticut is a great team.
Where did I say this?
Do you think beating 2 BCS schools (one of which finished the season 5-7) means you should be in a BCS Bowl?
Posted on 1/2/11 at 7:35 pm to GamecockAlum
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We beat 6, twice as many as TCU,
They are not ina BCS conference (yet) so they can't play as many teams, this is a stupid argument. How many Big 12 south teams did South Carolina beat? Not as many as TCU, ha! The Big 12 South was the 2nd toughest division in CFB. TCU > USCe
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but you don't see me begging for respect like a bum wanting change (which is what TCU is doing).
You'd think these guys went 13-0 while playing the top 13 teams in the country.
Really provide some links from someone associated with TCU making any of the claims you suggest.
Your butt hurt and jealousy is leading you to flat out lie now.
This post was edited on 1/2/11 at 7:43 pm
Posted on 1/2/11 at 7:39 pm to H-Town Tiger
quote:FSU won the title in 1999 with the #6 SOS; in 2000 they go to the title game with the #2 SOS.
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FSU won a NC this way: Chickening out of the SEC and beating up on an ACC that had nobody who could compete with them
They also played Florida and Miami every year.
Posted on 1/2/11 at 7:41 pm to GamecockAlum
quote:TCU acts like TCU is elite.
it's just they aren't an elite team and some people act like they are.
Posted on 1/2/11 at 7:42 pm to GamecockAlum
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Do you think beating 2 BCS schools (one of which finished the season 5-7) means you should be in a BCS Bowl?
Yes, when you also beat 9 other FBS and 1 FCS team to finish 12-0 and ranked #3 you should be in a BCS Bowl. And you know who agrees with me? The people that run the BCS.
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3. The champion of Conference USA, the Mid-American Conference, the Mountain West Conference, the Sun Belt Conference, or the Western Athletic Conference (hereinafter "non-AQ group") will earn an automatic berth in a BCS bowl game if either:
A. Such team is ranked in the top 12 of the final BCS Standings, or
B. Such team is ranked in the top 16 of the final BCS Standings and its ranking in the final BCS Standings is higher than that of a champion of a conference that has an annual automatic berth in one of the BCS bowls.
Note there is no minimum # of wins over teams in BCS conferences required to qualify.
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Posted on 1/2/11 at 7:46 pm to GamecockAlum
quote:I would guess that LSU would have about a 50/50 shot at going undefeated vs. that schedule. It looks like they would play Baylor the day they played Tennessee; the way LSU played, Baylor would have beaten the Tigers that day.
How would your school do vs. this schedule
All in all, I think an elite program would go undefeated vs. that schedule; a program that is not elite would not do so.
You're approaching troll status. You have a shitty point, and you're still hammering it home.
Posted on 1/2/11 at 7:47 pm to GamecockAlum
quote:You indicated that you believe that 6 wins over "BCS" teams is a measuring stick that should be used to judge a team's greatness. Therefore, by your own logic, Connecticut is great. Personally, I believe that wins over "BCS" teams is meaningless. For example, three wins over Boise State, TCU and Nevada would be much more impressive to me than six wins over Kansas, Vanderbilt, Duke, Rutgers, Indiana and Washington State.
Where did I say this?
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Do you think beating 2 BCS schools (one of which finished the season 5-7) means you should be in a BCS Bowl?
I think the number "BCS" schools a team beats is irrelevant.
This post was edited on 1/2/11 at 7:51 pm
Posted on 1/2/11 at 7:54 pm to H-Town Tiger
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Note there is no minimum # of wins over teams in BCS conferences required to qualify.
There should be a rule that you have to play at least 6 BCS conference teams to play in BCS bowl.
As for XIV saying that LSU has 50/50 chance of going undefeated against that schedule, that's just stupid. LSU would roll through that schedule with ease.
Here's how the SEC teams would have done against that schedule:
South Carolina + the 5 SEC West bowl teams would have gone undefeated.
Florida/Georgia/Tennesse: 10-2 at worst.
Ole Miss: 8-4 at worst.
Vanderbilt: 7-5 at worst.
As for me being a troll, that's a compliment considering 60% of your posts are horseshite and the other 40% no one even bothers to acknowledge your asshattery.
Posted on 1/2/11 at 7:58 pm to GamecockAlum
quote:On 9/18, they didn't roll through Tennessee with ease, and Baylor is considerably better. If the Tigers had played Baylor that day, they likely would have lost.
As for XIV saying that LSU has 50/50 chance of going undefeated against that schedule, that's just stupid. LSU would roll through that schedule with ease.
quote:Cute, but let's talk sports, ok?
As for me being a troll, that's a compliment considering 60% of your posts are horseshite and the other 40% no one even bothers to acknowledge your asshattery.
Posted on 1/2/11 at 8:01 pm to GamecockAlum
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There should be a rule that you have to play at least 6 BCS conference teams to play in BCS bowl.
Teams play 7-9 conference games and a max of 12 games, so why not just say no one from NON BCS schools can go and while you're at it, send Congress a request for a hearing.
But your 6 BCS team rule hat still wouldn't help South Carolina make a BCS bowl. But seeing how the Non AQ' are now 5-1 in BCS bowls and 4-1 vs BCS teams, that would be pretty stupid.
This post was edited on 1/2/11 at 8:32 pm
Posted on 1/2/11 at 8:02 pm to GamecockAlum
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South Carolina + the 5 SEC West bowl teams would have gone undefeated.
TCU would have gone undefeated on South Carolina's schedule.
Prove that wrong.
This post was edited on 1/2/11 at 8:32 pm
Posted on 1/2/11 at 8:06 pm to xiv
The only SEC team that I'm confident would have gone 12-0 with that schedule is Alabama, which was the most consistent team in the SEC this year. Every other SEC team, including Auburn, has played bad enough at times to lose the better teams on TCU's schedule. Of course most of them would have been favored in all 12 games, but that doesn't mean they would have won them all. In 2007, LSU was favored in every game they played and still lost two of them.
Posted on 1/2/11 at 8:26 pm to trackfan
I like how the whole week prior to the Rose Bowl was posts about Wisconsin about to expose TCU as a fraud. Now the whole week after the Rose Bowl will be how overrated Wisconsin was and how TCU still isn't good.
Posted on 1/2/11 at 8:31 pm to Augustus
quote:Yep. Some people just don't think that "TCU" and "Mountain West" sound cool enough to them, so they imagine that they can be only so good.
I like how the whole week prior to the Rose Bowl was posts about Wisconsin about to expose TCU as a fraud. Now the whole week after the Rose Bowl will be how overrated Wisconsin was and how TCU still isn't good.
The fact is that you and I and some others are basing our opinions only on what actually has happened. IE, we esteem TCU as highly as we do only because of what they actually have done on the field. The OP, however, bases his opinion of TCU on what might happen if they played some other teams or what might happen if some other teams played their schedule.
Our opinions are based on facts.
His opinions are based on make-believe.
Posted on 1/2/11 at 8:36 pm to lsutigers1992
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And then lose to Wisconsin 164-0
Give TCU a freaking break.
TCU is a solid team. They earned a great win yesterday.
The gripe against these schools (TCU, Boise, Utah) is that in ONE game against a top team they can win the game. The problem is that their regular season schedule is so pathetic that they're guaranteed to get to that game on a regular basis.
Posted on 1/2/11 at 8:42 pm to VABuckeye
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The gripe against these schools (TCU, Boise, Utah) is that in ONE game against a top team they can win the game. The problem is that their regular season schedule is so pathetic that they're guaranteed to get to that game on a regular basis.
The gripe is stupid when they're not playing in the national championship. They're playing in a glorified exhibition, so who gives a shite? It was a great game, TCU won, and it meant a lot to their fans and program. Good for them. Why is it such a big deal?
Posted on 1/2/11 at 8:48 pm to xiv
In the BCS era, here's a list of the undefeated regular seasons in each conference:
SEC - 4 (Tennessee 1998, Auburn 2004 & 2010 Alabama 2009)
Big 10 - 2 (Ohio State 2002 & 2006)
Big 12 - 4 (Oklahoma 2000 & 2004, Texas 2005 & 2009)
PAC 10 - 3 (USC 2004 & 2005, Oregon 2010)
ACC - 1 (Florida State 1999)
Big East - 4 (Virginia Tech 1999, Miami 2001 & 2001, Cincinnati 2009)
Mountain West - 4 (Utah 2004 & 2008, TCU 2009 & 2010)
WAC - 5 (Boise State 2004, 2006, 2008 & 2009, Hawaii 2007)
CUSA - 1 (Tulane 1998)
MAC - 1 (Marshall - 1999)
Sun Belt - 0
Conclusion: Perfect seasons are hard to come by regardless of the competition, otherwise teams in the Sun Belt, MAC and CUSA would be doing it all the time.
SEC - 4 (Tennessee 1998, Auburn 2004 & 2010 Alabama 2009)
Big 10 - 2 (Ohio State 2002 & 2006)
Big 12 - 4 (Oklahoma 2000 & 2004, Texas 2005 & 2009)
PAC 10 - 3 (USC 2004 & 2005, Oregon 2010)
ACC - 1 (Florida State 1999)
Big East - 4 (Virginia Tech 1999, Miami 2001 & 2001, Cincinnati 2009)
Mountain West - 4 (Utah 2004 & 2008, TCU 2009 & 2010)
WAC - 5 (Boise State 2004, 2006, 2008 & 2009, Hawaii 2007)
CUSA - 1 (Tulane 1998)
MAC - 1 (Marshall - 1999)
Sun Belt - 0
Conclusion: Perfect seasons are hard to come by regardless of the competition, otherwise teams in the Sun Belt, MAC and CUSA would be doing it all the time.
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