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Posted on 1/2/11 at 9:00 pm to GamecockAlum
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South Carolina + the 5 SEC West bowl teams would have gone undefeated.
So based on your argument against TCU, USCe also didn't deserve to play in the SECCG playing a weak schedule in the SEC East.
Posted on 1/2/11 at 9:00 pm to trackfan
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GamecockAlum
man you really hate TCU
Posted on 1/2/11 at 9:12 pm to H-Town Tiger
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TCU would have gone undefeated on South Carolina's schedule.
TCU beat Wisconsin by two. Michigan State beat Wisconsin by 10. Michigan State got defeated by Alabama by 42. South Carolina beat Alabama by 14.
We are 64 points better than them.
South Carolina > TCU.
I await your counterargument.
Posted on 1/2/11 at 9:14 pm to Enfuego
I don't "hate" them. I just think they need to be reminded of their place in the pecking order of things (ie not in BCS Bowls).
And before someone says it, yes I am aware South Carolina has never been in BCS Bowl. What's sad about that is we have a better program and team than TCU and no one is touting us as an elite team. Hell There are at least 6 SEC teams that are flat out better than TCU this year, yet no one is saying Mississippi State is elite either.
And before someone says it, yes I am aware South Carolina has never been in BCS Bowl. What's sad about that is we have a better program and team than TCU and no one is touting us as an elite team. Hell There are at least 6 SEC teams that are flat out better than TCU this year, yet no one is saying Mississippi State is elite either.
Posted on 1/2/11 at 9:16 pm to GamecockAlum
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TCU beat Wisconsin by two. Michigan State beat Wisconsin by 10. Michigan State got defeated by Alabama by 42. South Carolina beat Alabama by 14.
We are 64 points better than them.
South Carolina > TCU.
I await your counterargument.
Posted on 1/2/11 at 9:17 pm to GamecockAlum
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TCU beat Wisconsin by two. Michigan State beat Wisconsin by 10. Michigan State got defeated by Alabama by 42. South Carolina beat Alabama by 14.
We are 64 points better than them.
South Carolina > TCU.
I await your counterargument.
This is a hanging curve right down the middle of the plate:
South Carolina lost to Kentucky. Kentucky lost to Mississippi, Mississippi lost to Jacksonville State. Jacksonville State lost to Tennessee Tech, Tennessee Tech lost to TCU.
TCU > South Carloina
Posted on 1/2/11 at 9:18 pm to GamecockAlum
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And before someone says it, yes I am aware South Carolina has never been in BCS Bowl. What's sad about that is we have a better program and team than TCU and no one is touting us as an elite team. Hell There are at least 6 SEC teams that are flat out better than TCU this year, yet no one is saying Mississippi State is elite either.
No serious and fair-minded football fan would mention South Carolina and Mississippi State in the same breath with TCU.
Posted on 1/2/11 at 9:19 pm to castorinho
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TCU beat Wisconsin by two. Michigan State beat Wisconsin by 10. Michigan State got defeated by Alabama by 42. South Carolina beat Alabama by 14.
We are 64 points better than them.
Just WOW!!!
Posted on 1/2/11 at 9:22 pm to trackfan
quote:And here are the SOS ratings for each:
In the BCS era, here's a list of the undefeated regular seasons in each conference:
SEC - 4 (Tennessee 1998, Auburn 2004 & 2010 Alabama 2009)
Big 10 - 2 (Ohio State 2002 & 2006)
Big 12 - 4 (Oklahoma 2000 & 2004, Texas 2005 & 2009)
PAC 10 - 3 (USC 2004 & 2005, Oregon 2010)
ACC - 1 (Florida State 1999)
Big East - 4 (Virginia Tech 1999, Miami 2001 & 2001, Cincinnati 2009)
Mountain West - 4 (Utah 2004 & 2008, TCU 2009 & 2010)
WAC - 5 (Boise State 2004, 2006, 2008 & 2009, Hawaii 2007)
CUSA - 1 (Tulane 1998)
MAC - 1 (Marshall - 1999)
Sun Belt - 0
1998 Tennessee: 20
1998 Tulane: (couldn't find--seriously weak)
1999 Florida State: 6
1999 Marshall: 93
1999 Virginia Tech: 53
2000 Oklahoma: 11
2001 Miami: 18
2002 Miami: 27
2002 Ohio State: 22
2004 Auburn: 51
2004 Boise State: 78
2004 Oklahoma: 12
2004 Utah: 90
2005 Texas: 13
2006 Boise State: 85
2006 Ohio State: 39
2007 Hawaii: (didn't even look up because I know it was below 100)
2008 Boise State: 94
2008 Utah: 56
2009 Alabama: 3
2009 Boise State: 98
2009 Cincinnati: 45
2009 Texas: 37
2009 Texas Christian: 60
2010 Auburn: 15
2010 Oregon: 98
2010 Texas Christian: 77
Posted on 1/2/11 at 9:23 pm to GamecockAlum
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I just think they need to be reminded of their place in the pecking order of things (ie not in BCS Bowls).
The people that run the BCS don;t think all non BCS teams should be excluded. The people that run the BCS > than a crybaby fan of a second rate SEC team.
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What's sad about that is we have a better program and team than TCU
What's sad is you don;'t have a better team that TCU and you know it, that is why you are jealous of them.
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There are at least 6 SEC teams that are flat out better than TCU this year, yet no one is saying Mississippi State is elite either
As xiv pointed out, our views are bases on what happened. Your's is based on your own bias and what you think or wish would happen.
I don't that I'd call TCU elite, but they would not be based just on 1 year. They have been very good for the last several years.
I'm still waiting for you to explain why more non AQ teams don;t go undefeated if playing a non BCS schedule is so easy.
Posted on 1/2/11 at 9:24 pm to GamecockAlum
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TCU beat Wisconsin by two. Michigan State beat Wisconsin by 10. Michigan State got defeated by Alabama by 42. South Carolina beat Alabama by 14.
We are 64 points better than them.
South Carolina > TCU.
I await your counterargument.
Even I on my worst day couldn't suck this hard.
Posted on 1/2/11 at 9:26 pm to xiv
xiv why did you leave off USC?
what was Nebraska's SOS rank in 1999? I thought they were better than VT that year.
what was Nebraska's SOS rank in 1999? I thought they were better than VT that year.
Posted on 1/2/11 at 9:27 pm to GamecockAlum
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What's sad about that is we have a better program and team than TCU and no one is touting us as an elite team.
You've got to be faking this, right?
Posted on 1/2/11 at 9:28 pm to trackfan
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No serious and fair-minded football fan would mention South Carolina and Mississippi State in the same breath with TCU.
And why not? Before the Rose Bowl, who have they beaten to impress you?
Posted on 1/2/11 at 9:29 pm to H-Town Tiger
quote:
xiv why did you leave off USC?
quote:NU: 14
what was Nebraska's SOS rank in 1999? I thought they were better than VT that year.
VT: 53
NU had a loss; VT was undefeated. LINK
This post was edited on 1/2/11 at 9:34 pm
Posted on 1/2/11 at 9:30 pm to GamecockAlum
Alright, folks. He's blatantly trolling at this point. Ignore it, and it'll go away.
Posted on 1/2/11 at 9:31 pm to xiv
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2010 Oregon: 98
Whose rankings are these?
Posted on 1/2/11 at 9:33 pm to xiv
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NU: 53
VT: 14
you typed that backwards per your link.
I figured NU had a better SOS, at 53 VT's is higher than I would have thought. I know NU had a loss. They had a bunch of turnovers at Texas and lost by 4, then clobbered Texas in the Big xii CG.
Posted on 1/2/11 at 9:34 pm to trackfan
quote:This is the old SOS formula that was cut out of the BCS a few years ago on account that every computer system has a SOS component, making it a bit redundant.
Whose rankings are these?
a = opponents' combined winning percentage
b = opponents' opponents' combined winning percentage
SOS = (2a + b)/3
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