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re: Looking at this Decade, Texas Has the Only Legit NC

Posted on 1/21/09 at 2:29 pm to
Posted by Flichter
St. Petersburg, FL
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 1/21/09 at 2:29 pm to
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Yep. Since this is true, we should probably just crown Miami the NC that year.


No, but if you define legit as believing they were the best team in the country that year and could beat all challengers, without bullshite calls, then OSU isn't legit.

They won that game, the reffing was an abomination in an otherwise entertaining NCG, but Miami was a better team and if they played again in dream world right now, Miami would win.
Posted by Buckeye Fan 19
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 1/21/09 at 2:36 pm to
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but if you define legit as believing they were the best team in the country that year and could beat all challengers,


Then virtually no champion is "legit".
Posted by The Easter Bunny
Santa Barbara
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Posted on 1/21/09 at 2:42 pm to
Exactly. I would love to know how many legit national champions there are all time.
Posted by Buckeye Fan 19
Member since Dec 2007
36551 posts
Posted on 1/21/09 at 2:47 pm to
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I would love to know how many legit national champions there are all time.



I meant in any sport, even those with playoffs, if that's the definition we're going by.
Posted by ironsides
Nashville, TN
Member since May 2006
8154 posts
Posted on 1/21/09 at 2:52 pm to
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but if you define legit as believing they were the best team in the country that year and could beat all challengers,


Yeah, and I truly believed that Duke was a final 4 team from 2001-2006 after winning the ACC each of those years and yet they only made it once to the final 4. It's all in who you beat and who you lose to. Florida and Oklahoma lost to teams that are better than Oregon state and beat teams that are better than the teams that USC beat.

You want to play on the big stage then schedule some of the big boys and play to your potential.

Hey - maybe we should have followed that last part last season
Posted by Flichter
St. Petersburg, FL
Member since Dec 2007
1021 posts
Posted on 1/21/09 at 2:52 pm to
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Then virtually no champion is "legit".


I didn't make the thread lol I was just giving my opinion to an unrealistic question/statement
Posted by Switzerland
Member since Jun 2008
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Posted on 1/21/09 at 2:58 pm to
i actually agree with the op in the sense that the 2005 mnc game was 100% legit. the game clearly featured the two best teams in the country that year and the better team won that night. other years involved controversy in or leading up to the mnc game.
Posted by lsumatt
Austin
Member since Feb 2005
12812 posts
Posted on 1/21/09 at 3:26 pm to
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the game clearly featured the two best teams in the country


MLB, NFL, and NCAA basketball rarely feature the two clear best teams in the country, so I guess their titles aren't legit
Posted by The Easter Bunny
Santa Barbara
Member since Jan 2005
45661 posts
Posted on 1/21/09 at 3:52 pm to
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MLB, NFL, and NCAA basketball rarely feature the two clear best teams in the country, so I guess their titles aren't legit


Basically my thinking, Matt, that's why I was wondering how many champions all time in all major sports Pagan thought were legit.

Texas in 2005
I'm assuming the great Nebraska teams in the mid-90s

Army back in the 40s?

Posted by lsumatt
Austin
Member since Feb 2005
12812 posts
Posted on 1/21/09 at 3:53 pm to
I am not sure how Arizona will be legit if they win next Sunday. Pagan will probably blab something about beating the other great teams in a playoff. But they wouldn't have beaten 11-5 New England in a playoff.
Posted by Switzerland
Member since Jun 2008
1671 posts
Posted on 1/21/09 at 4:05 pm to
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MLB, NFL, and NCAA basketball rarely feature the two clear best teams in the country, so I guess their titles aren't legit
i'm referring to within the confines of the bcs.
Posted by lsumatt
Austin
Member since Feb 2005
12812 posts
Posted on 1/21/09 at 4:09 pm to
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i'm referring to within the confines of the bcs.


And we are saying no other sport has a "legit" Champion, so why should we be bothered that their is argument to whether the best two teams are in the championship game?
Posted by TheRoarRestoredInBR
Member since Dec 2004
31097 posts
Posted on 1/21/09 at 4:19 pm to
How is Texas legit? They beat an USC that needed illegal Bush pull of Leinart at ND..they needed Leinart and Carroll to jackass away a double-digit lead in the last four minutes without running the ball nor Defense.

I'm being fascetious, but one could argue against most of them in some manor.

P.S. Miami 2001..one of the best teams in NCAA history..they killed everybody..sent damn near the two whole starting units and many young 2nd stringers into the NFL in following years.
This post was edited on 1/21/09 at 4:21 pm
Posted by derekinne
Afghanistan
Member since Jan 2009
5895 posts
Posted on 1/21/09 at 4:32 pm to
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In 2001 Miami played the absolute worst BCS NCG opponent, a team that not only didnt win their conference but didnt even win their division


Oh yeah, that Nebraska team was just absolutely horrible.
This post was edited on 1/21/09 at 4:35 pm
Posted by dukke v
PLUTO
Member since Jul 2006
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Posted on 1/21/09 at 4:43 pm to
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Oh yeah, that Nebraska team was just absolutely horrible


Its too bad LSU 2001 didn't get a shot at Miami they could have pulled it off!!!!
Posted by The Easter Bunny
Santa Barbara
Member since Jan 2005
45661 posts
Posted on 1/21/09 at 5:09 pm to
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Its too bad LSU 2001 didn't get a shot at Miami they could have pulled it off!!!!


I think LSU 2001 gets curbstomped by Miami
Posted by bubbz
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2006
23105 posts
Posted on 1/21/09 at 5:38 pm to
paging MJRuffalo
Posted by derekinne
Afghanistan
Member since Jan 2009
5895 posts
Posted on 1/21/09 at 5:42 pm to
I think any team in the nation gets curbstomped by that Miami team.

As much as I dislike the school, that team was unbelieveable.
Posted by dukke v
PLUTO
Member since Jul 2006
216353 posts
Posted on 1/21/09 at 5:45 pm to
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I think LSU 2001 gets curbstomped by Miami


You are joking right??? LSU had an offense that could have scored points on that D. SERIOUS!!!
Posted by Hot Carl
Prayers up for 3
Member since Dec 2005
62285 posts
Posted on 1/21/09 at 5:47 pm to
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Miami would've handed them their arse and deserved to be in the game over FSU considering they beat FSU.




Well, they shouldn't have lost then. Miami lost 1 game. Oklahoma lost zero. They are clearly the undisputed champion of that year. If you lose a game, you put your fate in other teams hands. Miami did that. Oklahoma did not.
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