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Posted on 2/9/14 at 12:15 pm to
Posted by ReauxlTide222
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Posted on 2/9/14 at 12:15 pm to
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Eta: when you can name the one orssmall handful of white guys who get the thug label, that kinda also doesn't help you point.


Can you name us some thug/trashy white athletes please?

Henderson, Mallet, name some others.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 2/9/14 at 12:15 pm to
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But only black get labeled thugs.

But those posters swear they would also call the white guy a thug too.

that white pg from ole miss got called a thug early and often...especially after this

Posted by shel311
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Posted on 2/9/14 at 12:16 pm to
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When's the last time you heard a black guy called a piece of trash? Because that's what we call shite white people. Florida is full of Florida white trash. If I were to refer to them I wouldn't call them thugs, I'd call em white trash. 

And black people, thugs?

That's the rationale? Yikes.
Posted by Melvin
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Posted on 2/9/14 at 12:18 pm to
He just looks like a huge douchebag
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 2/9/14 at 12:19 pm to
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Smart and a guy like Richard Sherman to Marshall Henderson doesn't help your point there, that further proves my point, to be honest, that that white guy is who these dudes get compared to.

wut

sherman didn't act like a thug really, and the label was somewhat wrong (although shite-talking and being flashy/outspoken IS part of the "thug" culture, so it wasn't 100% incorrect)

and "thug" has a racial component because it is a term that describes a certain part of urban-black culture

just like "white trash" or "redneck" is a term that describes a certain part of rural (mostly white, but not always) culture

Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 2/9/14 at 12:20 pm to
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He just looks like a huge douchebag

your typical white suburban/rural guy doesn't like shite talking, regardless of who is doing it

this applies to marshall henderson, richard sherman, or the ole cutler/rivers feud
Posted by ReauxlTide222
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Posted on 2/9/14 at 12:20 pm to
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And black people, thugs?


Yes. It's what they are called. I don't know of anyone who would want to be called white trash. There are tons of black people who embrace the term. Hell there are white people who embrace it too. It's more of a cultural thing than a straight insult. I would compare calling someone a thug to calling someone a redneck idiot or honky.
Posted by shel311
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Posted on 2/9/14 at 12:24 pm to
Feel free to revisit this during spring training when the white pitcher throws a ball at the white batters head and a brawl ensues.
Posted by shel311
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Posted on 2/9/14 at 12:25 pm to
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Yes. It's what they are called.
So... You do or don't understand why black people might take offense to this?

Especially a Richard Sherman type?
Posted by abjr22
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Posted on 2/9/14 at 12:26 pm to
He'll be suspended...as he should be. I'm sure he's fine with it though. An old or young white guy says some racist shite to me, he's getting his teeth knocked out. I can deal with the consequences, but there ain't no way a racist white guy is gonna disrespect me in any form or fashion. He'll know i'm not the one to play with.
This post was edited on 2/9/14 at 12:26 pm
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 2/9/14 at 12:26 pm to
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Feel free to revisit this during spring training when the white pitcher throws a ball at the white batters head and a brawl ensues.

this has no relation to pushing fans, talking shite acting flamboyant/flashy
Posted by ReauxlTide222
St. Petersburg
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Posted on 2/9/14 at 12:26 pm to
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Feel free to revisit this during spring training when the white pitcher throws a ball at the white batters head and a brawl ensues.


What does this have to do with anything and what would you compare a baseball fight to?
Posted by ReauxlTide222
St. Petersburg
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Posted on 2/9/14 at 12:28 pm to
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So... You do or don't understand why black people might take offense to this? Especially a Richard Sherman type?


No I understand.

Who called Richard Sherman a thug? Mainstream media? People on their couches? fricking twitter?

Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 2/9/14 at 12:30 pm to
while i agree with the framing of hockey/baseball fights compared to other sports is bullshite, that discussion has nothing to do with this discussion
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 2/9/14 at 12:31 pm to
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So... You do or don't understand why black people might take offense to this?

it's the same with how we describe the worst of certain white-dominant cultures

what is so wrong with describing negative aspect of a particular culture in words?
Posted by shel311
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Posted on 2/9/14 at 12:33 pm to
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this has no relation to pushing fans, talking shite acting flamboyant/flashy 
Right, the only relation is race.

So I complete understand why black people would be offended by that.
Posted by ReauxlTide222
St. Petersburg
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Posted on 2/9/14 at 12:34 pm to
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while i agree with the framing of hockey/baseball fights compared to other sports is bullshite, that discussion has nothing to do with this discussion


Oh without a doubt. I think it comes from a view people have built up from seeing fights between different races growing up and on videos on TV and the internet. It isn't right, but I think that's why people look down on two black guys fighting on a basketball court and cheer for a hockey or baseball fight.
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
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Posted on 2/9/14 at 12:34 pm to
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Who called Richard Sherman a thug? Mainstream media? People on their couches? fricking twitter? 
Who? A whole lot of folks.

Were you on the MSB those days after that game?
Posted by ballscaster
Member since Jun 2013
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Posted on 2/9/14 at 12:35 pm to
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He'll be suspended...as he should be. I'm sure he's fine with it though. An old or young white guy says some racist shite to me, he's getting his teeth knocked out. I can deal with the consequences, but there ain't no way a racist white guy is gonna disrespect me in any form or fashion. He'll know i'm not the one to play with.
That's right, dawg. Can't nobody disrespeck u.
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
112677 posts
Posted on 2/9/14 at 12:35 pm to
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what is so wrong with describing negative aspect of a particular culture in words? 
It's obviously wrong when you assign the words to guys like Richard Sherman. It's laughable to think otherwise.
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