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Posted on 8/4/16 at 11:59 am to
Posted by cardboardboxer
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Posted on 8/4/16 at 11:59 am to
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After the revenue sharing model was put in, Having massive payrolls hasn't guaranteed championships and small market teams are more competitive than ever before


Sure the little guys pop up year-to-year but where the consistent success? Who is the Boise St of the MLB? Who is the Patriots of the MLB?
Posted by WeeWee
Member since Aug 2012
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Posted on 8/4/16 at 11:59 am to
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I MUCH MUCH prefer the NFL system. The lack of parity in the MLB is garbage.

Honestly unless you are a fan of one of the teams that spends a crap ton it's not worth even following the MLB. Sure maybe your frugal team might have a good year once in a blue moon, but the very next season the Yankees and their large payroll will come steal every decent value player you had. There is no way to have consistent success if you aren't a big spender.

Meanwhile Dallas and DC spend like drunken sailors in the NFL and it only hurts their situation. I much prefer that.

"He who can spend the most money wins" is a shitty game to play for entertainment value, and is part of the reason (along with the length of games and low scoring) that the MLB is turning into a legacy sport.


The NFL's system hands down superior to the NBA's system and is 100X's better than MLB's.
Posted by Broseph Barksdale
Member since Sep 2010
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Posted on 8/4/16 at 11:59 am to
Lack of parity in MLB? Dumbest comment on the MSB in weeks.
Posted by StrongBackWeakMind
Member since May 2014
22650 posts
Posted on 8/4/16 at 12:00 pm to
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Sure but does a small market team have a chance to pull a Seattle Seahawks and have consistent success year-to-year given the fact that the Yankees or whoever can just poach all their diamonds in the rough the next offseason?

Cardinals.
Posted by lsu31always
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Posted on 8/4/16 at 12:01 pm to
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Who is the Patriots of the MLB?


Wait, are you saying Boston is a small market?
Posted by cardboardboxer
Member since Apr 2012
34919 posts
Posted on 8/4/16 at 12:02 pm to
Wrong, they spend above the average:



They are a have, not a have not.
Posted by StrongBackWeakMind
Member since May 2014
22650 posts
Posted on 8/4/16 at 12:03 pm to
You asked for a small market team comparable to Seattle. Seattle is bigger than St. Louis.
This post was edited on 8/4/16 at 12:05 pm
Posted by Rig
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Posted on 8/4/16 at 12:03 pm to
The baseball Giants have to be mentioned as well as far as getting their money's worth
Posted by ShaneTheLegLechler
Member since Dec 2011
63227 posts
Posted on 8/4/16 at 12:03 pm to
The Royals have had basically the same amount of success as the Seahawks as well over a brief time period. 1 championship, 1 championship loss. They've been ravaged by injuries this year so unlikely they will make it back.
This post was edited on 8/4/16 at 12:04 pm
Posted by cardboardboxer
Member since Apr 2012
34919 posts
Posted on 8/4/16 at 12:03 pm to
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Wait, are you saying Boston is a small market?



It is a top 10 metropolitan area but it's not known for spending big bucks like the Cowboys or Redskins.
Posted by Rig
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Posted on 8/4/16 at 12:04 pm to
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but it's not known for spending big bucks like the Cowboys or Redskins.

Wat
Posted by cardboardboxer
Member since Apr 2012
34919 posts
Posted on 8/4/16 at 12:04 pm to
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You asked for a small market team.



Normally small market lines up with the amount of resources the team can spend. Not always.
Posted by cardboardboxer
Member since Apr 2012
34919 posts
Posted on 8/4/16 at 12:06 pm to
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The Royals have had basically the same amount of success as the Seahawks as well over a brief time period. 1 championship, 1 championship loss.


Fair enough. Maybe there is more parity than I thought.
Posted by ShaneTheLegLechler
Member since Dec 2011
63227 posts
Posted on 8/4/16 at 12:06 pm to
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metropolitan area but it's not known for spending big bucks like the Cowboys or Redskins.



There's a hard salary cap though
Posted by The Seaward
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Member since Jan 2006
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Posted on 8/4/16 at 12:08 pm to
Last year, the correlation coefficient between wins and payroll in MLB was .17 (through August, data from a Fangraphs article). That is very weak.

Also, I think the randomness of baseball is the reason dynasties are more unlikely. Not the lack of a salary cap. A truly dominant football team will likely be a heavy favorite against any other team. It is pretty much impossible for any baseball team to be more than a 60% favorite in any baseball series.
Posted by StrongBackWeakMind
Member since May 2014
22650 posts
Posted on 8/4/16 at 12:11 pm to
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Maybe there is more parity than I thought.
Winner!
Posted by cardboardboxer
Member since Apr 2012
34919 posts
Posted on 8/4/16 at 12:12 pm to
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There's a hard salary cap though



That was my point. I was basically saying given the owners in place and in a NFL without a cap the Cowboys would probably have twice the payroll spending of the Patriots. And Tom Brady would have been wearing a star for a decade.
Posted by FitnessDude
Member since Jul 2016
66 posts
Posted on 8/4/16 at 12:14 pm to
The patriots are actually 2nd in revenue IIRC and are #2 in Forbes value at like 2.6 billion, so while the Cowboys have more revenue it's not a massive gap
Posted by Goldrush25
San Diego, CA
Member since Oct 2012
33961 posts
Posted on 8/4/16 at 12:17 pm to
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He who can spend the most money wins"


I think the team with the biggest payroll has one WS championship in the past 10 years, Yankees in '09.
Posted by McCaigBro69
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Member since Oct 2014
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Posted on 8/4/16 at 12:17 pm to
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The lack of parity in the MLB is garbage.


What the frick
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