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re: MLB Trade Deadline Thread
Posted on 7/26/12 at 8:05 pm to lsu31always
Posted on 7/26/12 at 8:05 pm to lsu31always
Greinke is a true number one.
You can count legit MLB number one SP's on two hands, imo.
You can count legit MLB number one SP's on two hands, imo.
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Posted on 7/26/12 at 8:10 pm to lsu31always
But you have to give me something more than that...what's so compelling about acquiring him?
Posted on 7/26/12 at 8:14 pm to BigBoyTiger
So your argument is he's had anxiety issues in the past, so you wouldn't touch him? Correct?
Posted on 7/26/12 at 8:17 pm to swamie
Yes...and the fact that he pitches in a weak hitting division. He's going to be facing the Yanks, Angels, etc...
Posted on 7/26/12 at 8:18 pm to bddwolfpack
quote:
Greinke is a true number one.
If he was a number one why was he so shitty on the road last year....and why wasn't he dominant in the playoffs?
Posted on 7/26/12 at 8:24 pm to bddwolfpack
quote:
Greinke is a true number one. You can count legit MLB number one SP's on two hands, imo.
Serious question.. Do you just say dumb shite so people respond to you?
Posted on 7/26/12 at 8:27 pm to GynoSandberg
Do all you do is bitch and moan about shite I post?
I say something that an editor of Baseball Prospectus said, and you act like it was something idiotic.
So which part are you arguing:
Greinke is a legit ace
or
There are 10 or fewer legit aces in baseball
I say something that an editor of Baseball Prospectus said, and you act like it was something idiotic.
So which part are you arguing:
Greinke is a legit ace
or
There are 10 or fewer legit aces in baseball
Posted on 7/26/12 at 8:32 pm to bddwolfpack
Legit #1's/aces in baseball
Strasburg
Gonzalez
Dickey
Hamels
Greinke
Kershaw
Cain
Sabathia
Price
Sale
Verlander
Weaver
Hernandez
ETA: I'm not talking the ace of a staff. I'm talking the guys that are legit number one's in the game of baseball.
Strasburg
Gonzalez
Dickey
Hamels
Greinke
Kershaw
Cain
Sabathia
Price
Sale
Verlander
Weaver
Hernandez
ETA: I'm not talking the ace of a staff. I'm talking the guys that are legit number one's in the game of baseball.
This post was edited on 7/26/12 at 8:39 pm
Posted on 7/26/12 at 8:34 pm to bddwolfpack
no matt cain?
Posted on 7/26/12 at 8:34 pm to BigBoyTiger
quote:
He's going to be facing the Yanks, Angels, etc..
Where he's won a Cy Young.
Posted on 7/26/12 at 8:35 pm to The Truth 34
Yes, Cain too.
Posted on 7/26/12 at 8:38 pm to bddwolfpack
Team by Team...
NL East
Washington - Gonzalez + Strasburg
Miami - Josh Johnson would have been if not for injury. He's borderline currently.
Philadelphia Hamels. Lee was in previous years. Halladay's been hurt.
New York - Dickey
Atlanta - none. Bunch of strong 2's/3's
NL Central
Pittsburgh - none
Houston - none
Chicago - none. Dempster and Garza are both strong 2's. Shark has ace potential in future.
Cincinatti - Cueto is a borderline guy for me
St. Louis - Carpenter + Wainwright were pre-injury. Linn is a strong 2.
Milawauke - Greinke. Gallardo has ace potential
NL West
Arizona - none
Los Angeles - Kershaw
San Diego - none
Colorado - no one close
San Francisco - Cain. Lincecum pre this year.
AL East
Tampa Bay - Price. Shields a strong 2.
Boston - none. Guys with ace stuff though.
Toronto - none
Baltimore - no one close
New York - Sabathia
AL Central
Kansas City - no one close
Cleveland - none. Ubaldo at one time was.
Chicago - Sale
Detroit - Verlander
Minnesota - no one close
AL West
Los Angeles - Weaver. Strong 2's behind him
Oakland - bunch of good, young arms with potential
Texas - Darvish/Harrison strong 2's
Seattle - Hernandez
NL East
Washington - Gonzalez + Strasburg
Miami - Josh Johnson would have been if not for injury. He's borderline currently.
Philadelphia Hamels. Lee was in previous years. Halladay's been hurt.
New York - Dickey
Atlanta - none. Bunch of strong 2's/3's
NL Central
Pittsburgh - none
Houston - none
Chicago - none. Dempster and Garza are both strong 2's. Shark has ace potential in future.
Cincinatti - Cueto is a borderline guy for me
St. Louis - Carpenter + Wainwright were pre-injury. Linn is a strong 2.
Milawauke - Greinke. Gallardo has ace potential
NL West
Arizona - none
Los Angeles - Kershaw
San Diego - none
Colorado - no one close
San Francisco - Cain. Lincecum pre this year.
AL East
Tampa Bay - Price. Shields a strong 2.
Boston - none. Guys with ace stuff though.
Toronto - none
Baltimore - no one close
New York - Sabathia
AL Central
Kansas City - no one close
Cleveland - none. Ubaldo at one time was.
Chicago - Sale
Detroit - Verlander
Minnesota - no one close
AL West
Los Angeles - Weaver. Strong 2's behind him
Oakland - bunch of good, young arms with potential
Texas - Darvish/Harrison strong 2's
Seattle - Hernandez
This post was edited on 7/26/12 at 9:02 pm
Posted on 7/26/12 at 8:41 pm to bddwolfpack
Yea, Dickey isn't a one.
Posted on 7/26/12 at 8:43 pm to bddwolfpack
quote:
I say something that an editor of Baseball Prospectus said, and you act like it was something idiotic.
I asked you who said Vitters wasn't an everyday MLB 3B quote:
Greinke is a legit ace
Legit ace being the best pitcher on a team, sure.
But mentioning him in the same breath as the "legit ace" pitchers you can name on two hands? No.
His career ERA is approaching 4. In 9 years, he has only sniffed the Cy Young the year he won it.
You're putting him in the same category as Verlander, Felix, Strasburg, Weaver, Halladay, Kershaw etc and Im not sure why. His Cy Young year was lights out, but that's about it.
Posted on 7/26/12 at 8:43 pm to bddwolfpack
quote:
bddwolfpack
fricking idiot. You forgot Happ.
Posted on 7/26/12 at 8:44 pm to lsu31always
quote:
Yea, Dickey isn't a one.
I'd say he is at least for this year. But I see your point.
Posted on 7/26/12 at 8:46 pm to GynoSandberg
quote:
I asked you who said Vitters wasn't an everyday MLB 3B
And I had a post responding to that.
ETA: See top of page 18 of this thread
I'm an idiot for sharing the opinion of Jim Callis of BA and Keith Law of ESPN? Wtf
This post was edited on 7/26/12 at 8:51 pm
Posted on 7/26/12 at 8:51 pm to bddwolfpack
Yes. You said I acted like it was some idiotic. I never said that.
I did act like grouping Greinke with the best pitchers in baseball was idiotic
I did act like grouping Greinke with the best pitchers in baseball was idiotic
Posted on 7/26/12 at 9:00 pm to GynoSandberg
Whatever, man.
No matter what I post, you'll find a way to bitch about. We all have opinions. No need to flame me for mine.
No matter what I post, you'll find a way to bitch about. We all have opinions. No need to flame me for mine.
Posted on 7/26/12 at 9:04 pm to bddwolfpack
Im not flaming you. I wasn't sure if you were trolling again or being serious.
Once I cleared that up, I posted a retort to your argument that Greinke belonged in the top tier of SPs in the MLB. Difference of opinion makes tigerdroppings go round. I was just trying to figure out why you viewed him as such an elite pitcher.
Once I cleared that up, I posted a retort to your argument that Greinke belonged in the top tier of SPs in the MLB. Difference of opinion makes tigerdroppings go round. I was just trying to figure out why you viewed him as such an elite pitcher.
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