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Posted on 4/16/09 at 11:38 pm to Buckeye Fan 19
What is the definition of a better runner as opposed to a better running back?
SFP makes me lol.
SFP makes me lol.
Posted on 4/17/09 at 12:56 am to lsu xman
I like Wells too, I think he could easily be a 1500 yard back if he gets the carries.
Posted on 4/17/09 at 2:39 am to ohiosportfan777
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knowshon's day against lsu. 160 yards, about 8 a carry and 2 TDs.
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Wells had 20/146yds 7.3avg 1td vs LSU in the NC game.
wells had one really long run for a td off a busted play early in the game. knowshon definitely wins the "versus LSU award"
Posted on 4/17/09 at 2:41 am to Boomshockalocka
Outside of a given team to evaluate needs I'd probably take Moreno.
He has better vision and agility IMO and he's more durable.
Wells has missed a ton of games, but he does miss a ton of snaps. RBs already have a short shelf life Wells could peak within 2-3 years of his draft day.
He has better vision and agility IMO and he's more durable.
Wells has missed a ton of games, but he does miss a ton of snaps. RBs already have a short shelf life Wells could peak within 2-3 years of his draft day.
Posted on 4/17/09 at 8:09 am to LSUtigahs28
Let's get it clear that Wells has not missed "a ton of games." If I remember correctly, he has missed 3 total games in his 3 years at OSU.
Now, I will say I think he can be a liability healthwise, but he played through a lot
Now, I will say I think he can be a liability healthwise, but he played through a lot
Posted on 4/17/09 at 8:17 am to KosmoCramer
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What is the definition of a better runner as opposed to a better running back?
runners know how to run. they know timing, follow blockers, know how to set up defenders, use their burst, etc
reggie bush is not a good runner, but he had the physical skills to just burn CFB defenders
wells is a better runner than reggie, but he has similar traits. he bounces too much outside and tries to rely on his superior athleticism against slow defenders more than setting up defenders
Posted on 4/17/09 at 8:20 am to KosmoCramer
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What is the definition of a better runner as opposed to a better running back
+1
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SFP makes me lol
+2
Posted on 4/17/09 at 8:23 am to lsu xman
Wells >>> Moreno, but Ian Johnson >>> both of them
Posted on 4/17/09 at 8:24 am to KosmoCramer
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What is the definition of a better runner as opposed to a better running back?
I would imagine it's like people who say Barry Sanders is the best runner ever, but Walter Payton is the best running back ever.
Posted on 4/17/09 at 8:25 am to beauchristopher
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knowshon's day against lsu. 160 yards, about 8 a carry and 2 TDs.
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Wells had 20/146yds 7.3avg 1td vs LSU in the NC game.
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Wells had his game against a great (NC) defense. Moreno's was against a poorly coached defense. I don't think the two games are comparable. Wells is a big back with speed that doesn't come along that often.
IMO Wells > Moreno
You gotta admit, nice stiff arm on Chevis by Wells in the NC game.
Posted on 4/17/09 at 8:25 am to StatMaster
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You guys don't think Moreno is an injury risk as well. Seems like undersized guys like him that try to be power runners in the pros end up getting hurt quite often i.e. Cadillac Williams, Joseph Addai, and to some extent Marion Barber.
Considering that they had about the same number of starts in college, that's a valid point.
Posted on 4/17/09 at 8:26 am to TheLittleAristotle
i still like the reggie example, just b/c it's become so clear the past couple years that he doesn't have good vision, he doesn't follow blockers, and he just tries to burn everyone
another good example of the opposite (limited physical skills but great RB b/c of his running skills) is travis "i must be Catholic" henry. that guy was short, slow, and a great runner
another good example of the opposite (limited physical skills but great RB b/c of his running skills) is travis "i must be Catholic" henry. that guy was short, slow, and a great runner
Posted on 4/17/09 at 8:46 am to SlowFlowPro
SFP I disagree about the vision thing. IMO Beanie bounces it outside BECAUSE he has the vision to see a play isn't going anywhere up the middle. Bush bounced it outside BEFORE looking to see the development in the middle because as you said, he could just outrun linemen and linebackers with ease, and he hasn't adjusted to the league. I understand what you are saying but I disagree with your assessment
Posted on 4/17/09 at 8:52 am to SlowFlowPro
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runners know how to run.
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they know timing, follow blockers, know how to set up defenders, use their burst, etc
thats being a good running back
This post was edited on 4/17/09 at 8:53 am
Posted on 4/17/09 at 8:55 am to SlowFlowPro
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i still like the reggie example
i don't like that example cause he's a below-average runner and an even worse running back
Posted on 4/17/09 at 9:00 am to KosmoCramer
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SFP makes me lol
+100
Posted on 4/17/09 at 9:13 am to rocket31
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thats being a good running back
you can be a good running back, especially in college, without these traits
just look at reggie bush
Posted on 4/17/09 at 9:13 am to TheLittleAristotle
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i don't like that example cause he's a below-average runner and an even worse running back
that's the point, brah
Posted on 4/17/09 at 9:15 am to ohiosportfan777
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Speed: Wells
Durability: Moreno
Agility: Moreno
Power: Wells
Vision: Neutral
I like this assessment. It's a wash IMO. Both should be late first rounders.
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