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re: Muhammad Ali turns 70 today
Posted on 1/17/12 at 3:36 pm to trackfan
Posted on 1/17/12 at 3:36 pm to trackfan
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At the time Ali and a lot of other Blacks didn't believe in what it stood for.
Agree but also remember that we are looking back at the war in hind sight. It didnt have nearly the negative stigma then as it does in reflection.
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Posted on 1/17/12 at 6:59 pm to trackfan
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bullshite! In those days, staying stateside wouldn't have been an option for Anapolis graduates like Staubach just like it wasn't for John McCain.
Go ahead and pick up the pile of cards b/c your bullshite call isn't true.
Funny how you compare the Heisman trophy winner to nobody, at that time.
Posted on 1/17/12 at 7:02 pm to Unbiased Bama Fan
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Muhammad Ali
American Icon.
Posted on 1/17/12 at 7:12 pm to Cleanmatt
I agree with this !!
Posted on 1/17/12 at 7:28 pm to Unbiased Bama Fan
quote:this reminds me of a scene from mad men
Boxing is a lot of white men watching two black men beat each other up.
Posted on 1/17/12 at 7:35 pm to Cleanmatt
I wouldn't have fought in vietnam either
Posted on 1/17/12 at 10:27 pm to DBG
Hated him as I was a kid growing up. Pulled against him all the time. I have grown to respect his in ring abilities later in life. Don't care for his anti-war, muslim, political shite but damn he could beat the shite out of dudes. A smarter version of Mike Tyson in my opinion.
Posted on 1/18/12 at 6:27 am to TeddyPadillac
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just a few guys that got drafted and weren't dickbags about it. Granted not all were drafted, some just felt like serving our country.
frick Muhammad.
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• Yogi Berra was playing in the New York Yankees' farm system when he was drafted. He operated a machine gun on a Navy rocket boat off Omaha Beach on D-Day.
• Rocky Bleier, Pittsburgh Steelers running back, was drafted in 1968 and served in Vietnam. His right foot was injured by a grenade blast, but he returned to help the Steelers win four Super Bowls.
• Al Blozis, an All-Pro tackle for the New York Giants, was killed in France in World War II.
• Joe DiMaggio, a New York Yankees center fielder, went into the Army in 1942 after seven All-Star seasons. After three years, he returned to help the Yankees win four World Series titles between 1947 and '51.
• Art Donovan, who became a Hall of Fame defensive tackle for the Baltimore Colts, enlisted in the Marines and fought in World War II in the Pacific.
• Bob Feller, a Cleveland Indians pitcher, enlisted within days of the bombing of Pearl Harbor. He served on a battleship in the Pacific, where he was a gun-crew chief.
• Billy Fiske, a bobsled gold medalist for the U.S. in 1928 and '32, was the first American pilot killed in World War II. He was shot down in 1940 in the Battle of Britain.
• Danielle Green, a Notre Dame women's basketball player (1995-2000), lost her left arm to rocket fire in Iraq in 2004.
• Tom Harmon, the 1940 Heisman Trophy winner from Michigan, was a fighter pilot in the Army Air Corps. In 1943 he survived a crash in Dutch Guiana (now Suriname) and being shot down over China.
• Tommy Hitchcock, considered by some the greatest polo player of all time, was killed on a test flight in World War II.
• Tim James, a former Miami Heat forward, was drafted in the first round of the 1999 draft and played three seasons in the NBA. He is currently in Iraq after enlisting in the Army a year ago.
• Bob Kalsu, a guard on the 1968 Buffalo Bills, was the only NFL player killed in Vietnam. A first lieutenant in the Army, he died on July 21, 1970. His wife gave birth to their son the next day.
• Bill Koll, a college wrestler at what is now Northern Iowa, fought at Omaha Beach on D-Day. He went on to win three NCAA wrestling titles -- he never lost a college match -- and be a member of the 1948 U.S. Olympic team.
• Tom Landry, Dallas Cowboys coach, was co-pilot of a B-17 bomber during World War II, flying 30 missions in Europe.
• Joe Louis, a former heavyweight champion, volunteered for the Army during World War II, performing in many charity boxing matches to raise money for the war.
• Christy Mathewson, a Hall of Fame pitcher, accidentally inhaled poison mustard gas in World War I, which led to his contracting tuberculosis that killed him in 1925.
• Joe Pinder, a minor league pitcher in the 1930s and '40s, was killed on D-Day at Omaha Beach. He was shot while bringing radio equipment ashore from landing craft. He was awarded a Medal of Honor.
• Dean Rockwell, who went on to coach the U.S. Olympic Greco-Roman wrestling team in 1964, fought at Omaha Beach.
• Warren Spahn, a Boston/Milwaukee Braves pitcher, fought in the Battle of the Bulge.
• Roger Staubach, a Dallas Cowboys quarterback, served in Vietnam after graduating from the U.S. Naval Academy.
• Pat Tillman, an Arizona Cardinals defensive back, served in the Army from 2002 to '04. On April 22, 2004, he was killed in a friendly-fire incident while on patrol in Afghanistan.
• Cecil Travis, a Washington Senators shortstop, had a major league-leading 218 hits in 1941, the year Joe DiMaggio had a 56-game hitting streak and Ted Williams hit .406. After the season, Travis went into the Army. He fought in the Battle of the Bulge and suffered gangrene in one of his feet because of exposure to the cold. Part of the foot had to be amputated.
• Ted Williams, a Boston Red Sox outfielder, became a Marine pilot after the 1942 season. He served as a flight instructor during World War II. He was called back to active duty in 1952 and flew 39 missions in Korea.
and frick you too. frick the draft during that time, go fight for your country and come home and be told you have to sit in the back of a theater and use a different bathroom and water fountain. Being treated like shyt and second class citizen, foreign soldiers treated black soldiers with more respect than their white counterpart.
My grandfather was on the beach during the invasion and had to come home to face the same bullshyt, so frick you.
This post was edited on 1/18/12 at 6:32 am
Posted on 1/18/12 at 8:09 am to LSUMastermind
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and frick you too. frick the draft during that time, go fight for your country and come home and be told you have to sit in the back of a theater and use a different bathroom and water fountain. Being treated like shyt and second class citizen, foreign soldiers treated black soldiers with more respect than their white counterpart.
My grandfather was on the beach during the invasion and had to come home to face the same bullshyt, so frick you.
Preach.....
Posted on 1/18/12 at 8:40 am to LSUMastermind
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and frick you too. frick the draft during that time, go fight for your country and come home and be told you have to sit in the back of a theater and use a different bathroom and water fountain. Being treated like shyt and second class citizen, foreign soldiers treated black soldiers with more respect than their white counterpart.
My grandfather was on the beach during the invasion and had to come home to face the same bullshyt, so frick you.
It was even worse than that. Up until the Vietnam War, it was common for Black soldiers to come home from war and get denied the right to vote. Furthermore, in many southern towns it was illegal for Blacks to wear their uniforms in public after returning from war and those who did often ended up swinging from a rope. In WWI, the U.S. military actually had a propaganda campaign to bring Jim Crow over to Europe since they were worried that Black soldiers would get "spoiled" by the Europeans who didn't treat Black folks like dogs. Google Secret Information Concerning Black American Troops. It will make your blood boil. Also read about what happened to Col. Lemuel Penn when he returned home from war.
Posted on 1/18/12 at 8:50 am to trackfan
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It was even worse than that. Up until the Vietnam War, it was common for Black soldiers to come home from war and get denied the right to vote. Furthermore, in many southern towns it was illegal for Blacks to wear their uniforms in public after returning from war and those who did often ended up swinging from a rope. In WWI, the U.S. military actually had a propaganda campaign to bring Jim Crow over to Europe since they were worried that Black soldiers would get "spoiled" by the Europeans who didn't treat Black folks like dogs. Google Secret Information Concerning Black American Troops. It will make your blood boil. Also read about what happened to Col. Lemuel Penn when he returned home from war.
Anyone?????Helllo????
Posted on 1/18/12 at 11:28 am to LSUMastermind
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and frick you too. frick the draft during that time, go fight for your country and come home and be told you have to sit in the back of a theater and use a different bathroom and water fountain. Being treated like shyt and second class citizen, foreign soldiers treated black soldiers with more respect than their white counterpart.
My grandfather was on the beach during the invasion and had to come home to face the same bullshyt, so frick you.
SO you want to talk about how your grandfather was a great human being and great American, or how Muhammad was a communist muslim peice of shite? Just b/c i hate Muhammad doesn't mean i'm in the KKK dumb frick.
I can give a similar discrimination story about my white grandfather growing up in America, but i have a feeling you might not think it's discrimination b/c he's white.
If you have a problem with me having absolutely zero respect for Muhammad and the upmost respect for men like your grandfather, then you can go frick yourself.
Don't compare your grandfather to Muhammad when you want to talk about blacks being treated unfairly. I doubt your grandfather was a superstar millionaire with an ungrateful loud cummunist mouth.
And don't act as if every black person in this country at that time was treated like a civil war slavery movie, and every white person hated them and treated them like that. I know many were treated very unfairly. Not every white person hated every black person though. and it's not like that anymore so get the frick over it.
No where in the history of the world has a society bent over backwards to repay a group of discriminated people like we have in this country.
Everywhere else they either had a continious war or the discriminated people left for greener pastures.
Funny how my son has less of a chance at becoming something like a head football coach in the NFL b/c your son is black and will be given more opportunities to get scholarships to attend college and more opportunities to interview for jobs simply b/c his great grandfather, who he'll never actually know personally, lived in a time where blacks were discriminated against. You think your son deserves those opportunities over mine?
Posted on 1/18/12 at 11:37 am to TeddyPadillac
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SO you want to talk about how your grandfather was a great human being and great American, or how Muhammad was a communist muslim peice of shite? Just b/c i hate Muhammad doesn't mean i'm in the KKK dumb frick.
I can give a similar discrimination story about my white grandfather growing up in America, but i have a feeling you might not think it's discrimination b/c he's white.
If you have a problem with me having absolutely zero respect for Muhammad and the upmost respect for men like your grandfather, then you can go frick yourself.
Don't compare your grandfather to Muhammad when you want to talk about blacks being treated unfairly. I doubt your grandfather was a superstar millionaire with an ungrateful loud cummunist mouth.
And don't act as if every black person in this country at that time was treated like a civil war slavery movie, and every white person hated them and treated them like that. I know many were treated very unfairly. Not every white person hated every black person though. and it's not like that anymore so get the frick over it.
No where in the history of the world has a society bent over backwards to repay a group of discriminated people like we have in this country.
Everywhere else they either had a continious war or the discriminated people left for greener pastures.
Funny how my son has less of a chance at becoming something like a head football coach in the NFL b/c your son is black and will be given more opportunities to get scholarships to attend college and more opportunities to interview for jobs simply b/c his great grandfather, who he'll never actually know personally, lived in a time where blacks were discriminated against. You think your son deserves those opportunities over mine?
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