re: My All-Time NBA White Guys team

Posted by AlexLSU

Member since Jan 2005

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Posted on 3/4/09 at 4:59 pm to Lester Earl

quote:
he won 2 MVPS. nuff said

Stockton- ZERO

cousy, i dont know

Nash's peak and career will never match Stockton's. The fact that John never won an MVP is because he didn't ever score a whole lot of points (though his career avg is only like a point off Nash's).

Stockton was a better passer.
Stockton was much clutch.
Stockton could play defense.

Posted by LSU Fan 90812

A man more eviler than Skeletor.

Member since Feb 2005

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Posted on 3/4/09 at 4:59 pm to Lester Earl

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but MVP is the MVP. Thats a pretty big honor, and to win it back to back is pretty damn outstanding.

not really. many consider it a travesty that nash won a single mvp. the best player rarely wins the

the mvp is voted on by members of the media. nash was right player, right time, and the first american looks like me guy to succeed in a decade, playing for a team that played drastically different basketball than the rest of the league. nash made for a great story- and history has shown that his assist numbers were hyper inflated by playing in the d'antoni system.

his per in his MVP seasons is behind that of CP3 in the past 3 seasons.

(in other words, his mvps were all hype)
Not to mention that Nash's run of the spectacular was only a run of 4-5 years. Cousy led the league in assists 10 years in a row.

Throw in the championships (something Nash has never had a stake in). Cousy has an MVP himself,

And I'll give the nod to cousy.

This post was edited on 3/4/09 at 5:04 pm

Posted by PortCityTiger24

Member since Dec 2006

87455 posts

Posted on 3/4/09 at 5:00 pm to NOBODY

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Admit you were wrong Port

we had this conversation like 3 weeks ago where retards could not believe that he was Italian because he is from Argentina. You, apparently, are one of the retards.

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Posted by PortCityTiger24

Member since Dec 2006

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Posted on 3/4/09 at 5:01 pm to PortCityTiger24

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Like many Argentines, Ginóbili is a descendant of Italian immigrants, and he has dual citizenship with Argentina and Italy

LINK

Posted by LSU Fan 90812

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Posted on 3/4/09 at 5:01 pm to Lester Earl

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He won 2 MVPS. Thats more than the other 2 can say. He at least deserves mention

course he deserves mention.
one of the best passers and shooters of all time.

Posted by NOBODY

Member since May 2007

48772 posts

Posted on 3/4/09 at 5:02 pm to PortCityTiger24

I can believe he has Italian roots

I just know when you look at his player Bio it says he's argentinian. And when he plays in the Olumpics he plays on the Argentenian team.

Those two factors drive me to believe he feels he is Argentinian. And thats good enough for me.

Posted by LSU Fan 90812

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Posted on 3/4/09 at 5:05 pm to NOBODY

dunno. i mean if both of his parents are italian, than he'd probably be considered white if he was in america.

Posted by lsucoonass

shreveport and east texas

Member since Nov 2003

69823 posts

Posted on 3/4/09 at 5:07 pm to PortCityTiger24

why not?
his last name obviously has latin roots. argentina and brazil both have huge italian populations.

some people are just uneducated I suppose.

Posted by Maximus

Member since Feb 2004

81620 posts

Posted on 3/4/09 at 5:09 pm to Kracka

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Over McHale? wow.

Pettit = all star all 11 years he played, all NBA first team 10 times (2nd team the other year), 2 time MVP, scored 50 on the Celtics in the clinching game 6 to win the NBA finals

McHale = part-time starter on his own team

Posted by Mayor of Crazyville

Member since Feb 2008

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Posted on 3/4/09 at 5:09 pm to L.A.

Larry Bird
John Stockton
Jerry West
Bill Walton
Steve Nash

Posted by mattz1122

Member since Oct 2007

55997 posts

Posted on 3/4/09 at 5:11 pm to L.A.

C: Mikan
PF: Pettit
SF: Bird
SG: West
PG: Stockton

Posted by PortCityTiger24

Member since Dec 2006

87455 posts

Posted on 3/4/09 at 5:20 pm to LSU Fan 90812

quote:
i mean if both of his parents are italian, than he'd probably be considered white if he was in america.

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Posted by IAmTheHatOnMilesHead

Team 31™

Member since Nov 2008

25971 posts

Posted on 3/4/09 at 5:26 pm to PortCityTiger24

Jim McIlvane
Travis Knight
Danny Ferry
Cherokee Parks
Bobby Hurley
Eric Montross
Christian Laettner

I probably go 0-82 with this as my all-white rotation, with Laettner & Ferry as my star players.

/thread...my team is the worst.

Posted by LSU Fan 90812

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Posted on 3/4/09 at 5:27 pm to IAmTheHatOnMilesHead

Adam Morrison
JJ Reddick

Posted by Maximus

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Posted on 3/4/09 at 5:30 pm to LSU Fan 90812

Dante Calabria although Port may draft him on the Italian team too

Posted by NorthEndZone

Member since Dec 2008

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Posted on 3/4/09 at 5:36 pm to PortCityTiger24

PG Stockton, Cousy, Nash,
SG West, Westphal, Maravich, Havlicek
SF Bird, Rick Barry, Bobby Jones, Billy Cunningham
PF Pettit, Dirk, McHale, DeBusschere
C Walton, Mikan, Cowens, Laimbeer

Posted by PortCityTiger24

Member since Dec 2006

87455 posts

Posted on 3/4/09 at 5:37 pm to Maximus

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Dante Calabria although Port may draft him on the Italian team too

I said Italian = white

Posted by AlejandroInHouston

New Orleans

Member since Apr 2007

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Posted on 3/4/09 at 6:26 pm to L.A.

Tom Chambers definitely belongs on that list, brah. And what about Dirk?

Also, I would say that both Stockton and Pistol Pete were better than Nash over the course of their careers.

Nash was like the Danny Wuerffell of NBA Top 10 Point Guards.

This post was edited on 3/4/09 at 6:27 pm