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Posted by BayouBengals03
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Posted on 2/21/11 at 4:22 am to
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Facts be damned? Kobe puts more points up per 48 minutes than any other player in the NBA. That's a fact bruh. Kobe is the better shooter. Also a fact.

LeBron shoots a higher percentage. Kobe is averaging 1.29 points/shot attempt. LeBron is at 1.4 points/attempt.

Kobe also takes more shots in 33 minutes of play per game than LeBron does in 38 minutes of play per game, yet still averages less points.

Kobe takes a ton of shots, that doesn't make him a more efficient scorer.
Posted by shel311
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Posted on 2/21/11 at 4:22 am to
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Explains why Kobe has a higher Free Throw percentage, right? Explains why LeBron averages 4 more minutes a game, yet only 1 more point. Also explains why over 48 minutes, no one averages more points than Kobe




If the most efficient scorer in the league takes more shots per game than player B, he would score more points per game than player B.

Correct?
Posted by shel311
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Posted on 2/21/11 at 4:23 am to
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Kobe also takes more shots in 33 minutes of play per game than LeBron does in 38 minutes of play per game, yet still averages less points.





He doesn't know what efficiency means, we've established that.
Posted by BayouBengals03
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Posted on 2/21/11 at 4:24 am to
No one is arguing that LeBron is a better shooter than Kobe. He's not.

ETA: Even though LeBron is shooting 34.5% from 3-pt. this year compared to Kobe's 31.5%.
This post was edited on 2/21/11 at 4:31 am
Posted by GamecockAlum
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Posted on 2/21/11 at 4:30 am to
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That does not mean he does it more efficiently?

Holy frick, are you serious?


Are you a retard? I broke it down in simpleton terms for you how Kobe was a better shooter. You apparently don't have comprehension skills guy. You are a straight dumbass bruh (Go cry about that )

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Also a fact, Lebron is a more efficient scorer. That is a fact son.


No he isn't. The percentages don't lie. They are on my side. You have no case. Accept it.
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passing


So LeBron is a better passer than Baron Davis, Tony Parker, Jameer Nelson, Stephen Curry, Tyreke Evans, Monta Ellis, and Chauncey Billups, right?

Hell if we are going by the numbers, then LeBron is the FIFTH best blocker on his own damn team. STUD!!!

I can't wait for the excuses you guys come up with after the Heat get eliminated and Kobe is in his 4th straight finals. No matter how it happens, I'm sure LeBron will still be your god and Kobe will be the suckage.
Posted by BayouBengals03
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Posted on 2/21/11 at 4:33 am to
LeBron shoots higher from the field than Kobe, and higher from behind the arc than Kobe. He also averages more points/shot than Kobe.

Kobe shoots higher from the free throw line than LeBron, but LeBron makes more free throws per game because he gets to the line more.

So basically, the only way Kobe is more efficient than LeBron is when it comes to getting shots off. But that's not the definition of offensive efficiency at all.

Literally none of the stats are on your side when it comes to efficiency, no matter how many times you say they are.
Posted by shel311
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Posted on 2/21/11 at 4:33 am to
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Are you a retard? I broke it down in simpleton terms for you how Kobe was a better shooter. You apparently don't have comprehension skills guy. You are a straight dumbarse bruh (Go cry about that


You said he was a more efficient shooter. I PROVED he is not. Can you not read simple english and understand simple numbers. Like when Kobe takes more shots and scores LESS points, that PROVES FACTUALLY that he is less efficient.

And I'm the dumbass?? Mentally weak man, that's what you are. You can't have a debate without freaking out and name calling.

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No he isn't. The percentages don't lie. They are on my side. You have no case. Accept it


Less shots/more points literally proves me correct and you wrong. Literally.

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I can't wait for the excuses you guys come up with after the Heat get eliminated and Kobe is in his 4th straight finals.


Look at me, I'm smarter because I can make a prediction.

Weeeee!!!

Weeeee!!!!
Posted by shel311
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Posted on 2/21/11 at 4:34 am to
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Literally none of the stats are on your side when it comes to efficiency, no matter how many times you say they are


Literally.


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Kobe shoots higher from the free throw line than LeBron, but LeBron makes more free throws per game because he gets to the line more



Oh snap, so does that mean Lebron is a more efficient free throw shooter?
This post was edited on 2/21/11 at 4:36 am
Posted by GamecockAlum
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Posted on 2/21/11 at 4:35 am to
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Kobe also takes more shots in 33 minutes of play per game than LeBron does in 38 minutes of play per game, yet still averages less points.



Not when you add in Free Throws. Last I checked, those are what one would consider shots.

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Kobe takes a ton of shots, that doesn't make him a more efficient scorer.


Not when you combine FG% + 3 Point% + FT%. Kobe's total is 1.601 to LeBron's 1.591. Kobe's is better.

Posted by GamecockAlum
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Posted on 2/21/11 at 4:36 am to
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Literally none of the stats are on your side when it comes to efficiency, no matter how many times you say they are.


The percentages are dude. That's a fact.

Kobe just straight produces more. It's okay. You can still nuthug LeBron if you want to, but he's not the better basketball player no matter how hard you want to believe it.
Posted by shel311
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Posted on 2/21/11 at 4:37 am to
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Not when you combine FG% + 3 Point% + FT%. Kobe's total is 1.601 to LeBron's 1.591. Kobe's is better


There's a reason why you've never seen any statistician EVER add up those 3 stats to make any kind of a point.

I'm not saying the reason, but I'm saying there is a reason.

Posted by BayouBengals03
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Posted on 2/21/11 at 4:38 am to
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Not when you add in Free Throws. Last I checked, those are what one would consider shots.

lolwhat
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Not when you combine FG% + 3 Point% + FT%. Kobe's total is 1.601 to LeBron's 1.591. Kobe's is better.

Holy frick. That has nothing to do with anything. You are a complete moron.
Posted by shel311
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Posted on 2/21/11 at 4:39 am to
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Kobe just straight produces more


Wait, are you admitting you're wrong?

You said Kobe was more efficient, now you're saying produces more.

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The percentages are dude. That's a fact.


No, it is a FACT that Kobe takes more shots and scores less points. That is efficiency.
Posted by GamecockAlum
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Posted on 2/21/11 at 4:39 am to
Go for it. I've slapped you around enough tonight. I'm going to let you do it for me now.

Posted by shel311
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Member since Aug 2004
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Posted on 2/21/11 at 4:39 am to
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Holy frick. That has nothing to do with anything. You are a complete moron


We're just saying that because that number favors Kobe, not because it is utterly ridiculous and unheard of, LOL.
Posted by shel311
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Posted on 2/21/11 at 4:40 am to
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I've slapped you around enough tonight.


Delusional.
Posted by BayouBengals03
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Posted on 2/21/11 at 4:41 am to
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The percentages are dude. That's a fact.

You are doing this on purpose at this point I'm pretty sure. You know you have absolutely zero argument and so you have to resort to name calling, asking for links, making up statistics that don't even exist, and stating something as FACT over and over again even if it isn't remotely close to being true.

And it's cool. It's just what you do. But you have proven to everyone on here that you know pretty much nothing about the sport of basketball. And that didn't take very long to figure out.

And a response really isn't necessary, because I'm leaving this trainwreck of a thread.
Posted by GamecockAlum
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Posted on 2/21/11 at 4:42 am to
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Wait, are you admitting you're wrong?

You said Kobe was more efficient, now you're saying produces more.


Wow this motherfricker can't even read. :rotflmao: :rotflmao:

You don't deserve to debated. In fact, I'll offer you up a way off this board. If LeBron and the Heat win the NBA title this year, I'll leave the board. If they don't, you say I was right, and you exit permanently. You got balls dumbass? Do I need to explain this in retard terms for you since that's your native tongue?
Posted by GamecockAlum
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Posted on 2/21/11 at 4:43 am to
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shel311
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Delusional.



Seem to go hand and hand.
Posted by shel311
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Member since Aug 2004
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Posted on 2/21/11 at 4:45 am to
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Wow this motherfricker can't even read.


In a response to an efficiency related post, you said:

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Kobe just straight produces more



Did you not???? No where in your post replying to a reply about efficiency did you discuss efficiency, correct? you only responded with "produces more", correct?

Get that weak shite outta here. You gotta come with better arguments next time, maybe even coherent ones. This shite is too easy.

Mother fricking can't even comprehend.
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