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re: NBA cba negotations: Owners asked for $45 million hard cap
Posted on 5/18/11 at 7:02 am to Jumbeauxlaya
Posted on 5/18/11 at 7:02 am to Jumbeauxlaya
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A lot of people are turned off by 4 dominating teams.
Maybe. But a lot more people like it, hence the big spike on ratings.
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Posted on 5/18/11 at 7:02 am to Jumbeauxlaya
Ya a recent study noted how uncertainty is way more appealing in sports than dominant teams. They said thats why march madness generates so much revenue
Posted on 5/18/11 at 7:46 am to Jumbeauxlaya
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A lot of people are turned off by 4 dominating teams.
the minority of people are
the ratings prove this
Posted on 5/18/11 at 8:01 am to sgallo3
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Ya a recent study noted how uncertainty is way more appealing in sports than dominant teams.
Butler-UConn: 13.3 rating
Celtics-Lakers Game 7: 18.2 rating
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They said thats why march madness generates so much revenue
march madness shows a ton of games. it's around 70 games every yera in a month
and MM is the one example where people cheer for the underdog. that's b/c o the whole idiotic "bracket" bullshite
big markets, big teams, and stars sell ratings
this isn't just basketball. look at the baseball ratings last year for SF/TX (highest game was 9.0)
NY-Philly? good ratings
NY-Tampa? bad ratings
Posted on 5/18/11 at 8:13 am to SlowFlowPro
Well the majority of people watch shows like Two and a Half Men and Survivor. What's your point?
Posted on 5/18/11 at 8:14 am to UnluckyTiger
we're discussing revenue generation, not aesthetics, so what's your point?
Posted on 5/18/11 at 8:17 am to SlowFlowPro
The majority of this country is dumb.
Posted on 5/18/11 at 8:25 am to UnluckyTiger
and they watch a lot of tv, which leads to more revenue for whatever entity produces that entertainment
that's where sports leagues in america really make their money
hate the system all you want, but it be's what it be's
that's where sports leagues in america really make their money
hate the system all you want, but it be's what it be's
Posted on 5/18/11 at 8:29 am to SlowFlowPro
In all of your examples you are looking at the championship games/series only. We're talking about the entire playoffs
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This post was edited on 5/18/11 at 8:38 am
Posted on 5/18/11 at 8:34 am to sgallo3
it's hard to compare otherwise
especially when you're comparing network ratings to cable ratings as well as differing numbers of games
but also, like i said earlier, corporate sponsorships and ticket/suite purchasing are the biggest difference b/w small and big markets in terms of pure revenue generation
NBA makes a ton on merchandising too (which is HEAVILY slanted towards stars and bandwagon teams)
NBA revenue generation is highly slanted towards big markets and star players. you can like it, hate it, or accept it
i seriously doubt the NBA restricts the ability of big markets to have great teams
especially when you're comparing network ratings to cable ratings as well as differing numbers of games
but also, like i said earlier, corporate sponsorships and ticket/suite purchasing are the biggest difference b/w small and big markets in terms of pure revenue generation
NBA makes a ton on merchandising too (which is HEAVILY slanted towards stars and bandwagon teams)
NBA revenue generation is highly slanted towards big markets and star players. you can like it, hate it, or accept it
i seriously doubt the NBA restricts the ability of big markets to have great teams
Posted on 5/18/11 at 8:38 am to sgallo3
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i stopped reading after the first line
the NFL isn't a model any other sport in America can follow. we're football-crazy
i'll read the rest at some point, just not right now. but the NFL model won't work for the NBA or MLB
i mean college football is more popular than the NBA and MLB when you look at national ratings for title games
Posted on 5/18/11 at 8:45 am to SlowFlowPro
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but also, like i said earlier, corporate sponsorships and ticket/suite purchasing are the biggest difference b/w small and big markets in terms of pure revenue generation
NBA makes a ton on merchandising too (which is HEAVILY slanted towards stars and bandwagon teams)
NBA revenue generation is highly slanted towards big markets and star players. you can like it, hate it, or accept it
i seriously doubt the NBA restricts the ability of big markets to have great teams
The whole reason for the lockout is that small markets are struggling. They believe the reason for that is that they cant be competitive under the current format. So while the big market owners will try to keep it close to the current system, they will be outnumbered at least 2 to 1.
Im pretty sure if they start complaining about not being able to make as much money without being dominant, the sentiment in the room will pretty much be "you're gonna sit here and complain about not making enough money when we're all losing money?"
This post was edited on 5/18/11 at 8:55 am
Posted on 5/18/11 at 9:17 am to sgallo3
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The whole reason for the lockout is that small markets are struggling.
the biggest reason is that owners want to cut player salaries, as is always the case with these sorts of actions
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They believe the reason for that is that they cant be competitive under the current format.
if salaries are lowered a certain %, then all franchises will have a better bottom-line
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So while the big market owners will try to keep it close to the current system, they will be outnumbered at least 2 to 1.
well then we are in a situation like the current NFL lockout, where the real debate is big owners v small owners, and the players are just collateral damage
i think the owners want to break the backs of the players and get a 20-25% reduction in salaries across the board. a $45M hard cap (and i'm guessing here) probably is a 35-40% reduction in salaries. there is only 1 team currently under that cap (and they're right up against it). there are 3 teams with payrolls approximately double that cap.
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