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Posted on 7/25/11 at 5:03 pm to
Posted by Jcorye1
Tom Brady = GoAT
Member since Dec 2007
76373 posts
Posted on 7/25/11 at 5:03 pm to
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I think he has more than made up for it at the plate (and the bank).


He's faded fast this year, and wasn't great last year, but there were multiple years where he was better than what we paid him. I have absolutely no regrets with signing JD Drew. I couldn't care less that he understands baseball is a numbers game, and doesn't break his bat if he hits a flyball in a crucial situation.
Posted by NHTIGER
Central New Hampshire
Member since Nov 2003
16188 posts
Posted on 7/25/11 at 5:08 pm to
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Even as a Red Sox fan, I don't think they will get to 100 wins.




Unless they pick up someone before the non-waiver trading deadline, their bench could easily be the least impressive (offensively) of any team that ever won 100 games. Drew and/or Lowrie will be back off the D/L at some point, but right now -

The current Red Sox bench:

Jason Varitek (.236)

Darnell McDonald (.160)

Yamaico Navarro (.167)

That's the entire bench going into tonight's game !
Posted by LSU82BILL
Fort Lauderdale, FL
Member since Sep 2006
10912 posts
Posted on 7/25/11 at 5:10 pm to
I actually saw Bucky at an event honoring Demie Mainieri last November and got a picture with him. I told him I just had to send it to my cousins in New England who can't refer to him without using his middle name - (F*@k!n)
Posted by Jcorye1
Tom Brady = GoAT
Member since Dec 2007
76373 posts
Posted on 7/25/11 at 5:11 pm to
Darnell McDonald will probably be dropped down for Kalish or Nava come the post season (or a trade for a good right handed OF), Varitek will catch Beckett, and Navarro isn't that bad.
Posted by CoeJ
Member since Oct 2010
1899 posts
Posted on 7/25/11 at 5:19 pm to
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I'm going to be in Manchester in September and we've got tickets to the Toronto game on the 13th? The seats are in Grandstand 19. Ever sat there?


Those seats aren't great IIRC. Theres a decent chance you'll have an obstructed view. Last year I ended up with some free seats there and I sold them for 40 each and bought some loge box seats for 100 each... ended up being a really good buy.
Posted by floridatigah
FL
Member since Oct 2004
10398 posts
Posted on 7/25/11 at 5:25 pm to
That's what the middle of the Mariners lineup looks like you spoiled bastard.
Posted by WDE24
Member since Oct 2010
54842 posts
Posted on 7/25/11 at 5:31 pm to
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I have absolutely no regrets with signing JD Drew.
He had a few big moments and a decent couple of years, but he has been mostly a disappointment to me.
Posted by LSU82BILL
Fort Lauderdale, FL
Member since Sep 2006
10912 posts
Posted on 7/25/11 at 5:56 pm to
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He had a few big moments and a decent couple of years, but he has been mostly a disappointment to me.


19 HR, 66 RBI per season and a .264 AVG for $14 million annually. Drew is a stiff!
Posted by NHTIGER
Central New Hampshire
Member since Nov 2003
16188 posts
Posted on 7/25/11 at 6:06 pm to
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That's what the middle of the Mariners lineup looks like you


Olivo, Smoak and Carp (last night's middle of the order) beg to differ ...
Posted by TigerStripes06
SWLA
Member since Sep 2006
30032 posts
Posted on 7/25/11 at 6:31 pm to
I'm reading on ESPN Kuroda is considering the red sox...surely they wouldn't be stupid enough to make another move like this, would they? You can say what you want about JD, but I'd be more concerned about pissing away money on Matsuzaka and, potentially, Kuroda.
Posted by Jcorye1
Tom Brady = GoAT
Member since Dec 2007
76373 posts
Posted on 7/25/11 at 6:41 pm to
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19 HR, 66 RBI per season and a .264 AVG for $14 million annually. Drew is a stiff!



You managed to quote two of the most overrated stats in baseball in one comment. Congrats.
Posted by LSU82BILL
Fort Lauderdale, FL
Member since Sep 2006
10912 posts
Posted on 7/25/11 at 7:00 pm to
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You managed to quote two of the most overrated stats in baseball in one comment. Congrats.


I didn't "quote" anything.....but feel free to supply two relevant "stats" that justify paying this bum $14 million a year. He has made $94 million in his career and made ONE All Star team.
Posted by Jcorye1
Tom Brady = GoAT
Member since Dec 2007
76373 posts
Posted on 7/25/11 at 7:20 pm to
He had a .900 OPS twice and ~.800 OPS twice while providing fantastic defense during his stay for the Red Sox. JD Drew's game has never been about averages, its on base percentage and slugging. 5 and 4.1 WAR, what a bum
This post was edited on 7/25/11 at 7:23 pm
Posted by Jcorye1
Tom Brady = GoAT
Member since Dec 2007
76373 posts
Posted on 7/25/11 at 7:22 pm to
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He has made $94 million in his career and made ONE All Star team.


His OPS, Slugging, and OBP is higher than Ichiro's over his career

Yes he has faded fast at the end of his career, but jeez.
Posted by TigerStripes06
SWLA
Member since Sep 2006
30032 posts
Posted on 7/25/11 at 7:42 pm to
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He has made $94 million in his career and made ONE All Star team.



he's also won a ring, which I would consider more valuable than 10 all star appearances. and the one all star game he did make, he was MVP. But i guess haters are gonna hate.
Posted by COTiger
Colorado
Member since Dec 2007
16844 posts
Posted on 7/25/11 at 7:53 pm to
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I'm going to be in Manchester in September and we've got tickets to the Toronto game on the 13th? The seats are in Grandstand 19. Ever sat there?


Can a Red Sox fan answer the question. TIA.
Posted by Vicks Kennel Club
29-24 #BlewDat
Member since Dec 2010
31211 posts
Posted on 7/25/11 at 7:54 pm to
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he's also won a ring, which I would consider more valuable than 10 all star appearances

You know someone had to say this, but Cody Ross is more valuable than Ryne Sandberg then.

Drew was not a bust as most like to think. However, I would not say that he exceeded the expectations of his contract by any means.
Posted by TigerStripes06
SWLA
Member since Sep 2006
30032 posts
Posted on 7/25/11 at 8:04 pm to
not saying he's more valuable than anyone else...I'm saying in my mind, and most likely in his, he would rather have that world series ring than 10 all star appearances. (sorry for the confusion)

and in fairness to sandberg, he played for the cubs. They couldn't win a world series by default if the rest of the teams in MLB folded.
This post was edited on 7/25/11 at 8:06 pm
Posted by Vicks Kennel Club
29-24 #BlewDat
Member since Dec 2010
31211 posts
Posted on 7/25/11 at 8:06 pm to
Ok, I agree with that. Your previous post seemed a little confusing for someone who usually I agree with baseball-wise.
Posted by LouisianaSatNight
Baltimore, MD
Member since Dec 2010
913 posts
Posted on 7/25/11 at 9:44 pm to
Maybe it's the abundance of Bravetards here but I really don't see how people here keep selling the Phillies short. They're clearly the best team in baseball even with an inept offense. If the bats continue to come around and Howard can get hot, they will waltz to a World Series. And that's not me being a homer, anything short of a WS victory is a huge disappointment with this pitching staff.
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