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re: Someone find me a more overrated qb than joe Namath?
Posted on 12/21/12 at 11:04 am to DelU249
Posted on 12/21/12 at 11:04 am to DelU249
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Fox Mulder
What are you confused by? It is a well-known fact that college football was more popular than the NFL in the 60s and 70s. That didn't change until the 80s and 90s.
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Posted on 12/21/12 at 11:23 am to Dire Wolf
Ohh bama fans and their magical "eyeball test". Ignore facts and stats because I done seent it with ma own two eyes.
Posted on 12/21/12 at 11:30 am to Dire Wolf
Career losing record
Barely 50% completions
Nearly 50 more INTs than TDs in his career
Career 65.46 Passer Rating
His stats SUCK.
Barely 50% completions
Nearly 50 more INTs than TDs in his career
Career 65.46 Passer Rating
His stats SUCK.
Posted on 12/21/12 at 11:41 am to Captain Ron
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Career losing record
Barely 50% completions
Nearly 50 more INTs than TDs in his career
Career 65.46 Passer Rating
Even Jordan Jefferson completed 8 percent more passes and had 14 more TDs than INTs.
Not a serious comparison, but still funny.
Posted on 12/21/12 at 11:53 am to Sophandros
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Namath threw for 286.2 per game. 286.2/179.5 is 1.59. That's a HUGE difference. To compare, Drew Brees threw for 342.3 yards per game in 2011. The league average then was 229.7. The factor there is 1.49.
Matthew Stafford should be a first ballot HOFer then, right?
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The "if this guy is in then that guy should be in" doesn't hold water. If you think that Namath shouldn't be in, then that doesn't help your argument to get Lamonica in. If you think that Lamonica should be in, then argue his entry on HIS merits alone, not by tearing down Namath.
I posted Lamonica's stats because all you pro-Joes can say is "oh, well you don't understand the era. He was before his time." I showed someone that most people have never heard of was more successful than Joe.
Posted on 12/21/12 at 12:58 pm to Dire Wolf
Terry Bradshaw.
Posted on 12/21/12 at 1:09 pm to Dire Wolf
Bernie Kosar
Posted on 12/21/12 at 1:59 pm to saturday
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Terry Bradshaw.
Bob Griese was worse. Worst QB in the HOF.
Posted on 12/21/12 at 2:16 pm to Maximus
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I posted Lamonica's stats because all you pro-Joes can say is "oh, well you don't understand the era. He was before his time." I showed someone that most people have never heard of was more successful than Joe.
Did Lamonica ever win a Super Bowl?
Posted on 12/21/12 at 2:18 pm to Dire Wolf
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Seriously his stats suck
If he didn't win that game, he doesn't even sniff the HoF.
I'd say he's overrated, but everyone other than the sports media know he sucked arse as a person and a quarterback.
Posted on 12/21/12 at 2:25 pm to Paul Allen
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Bernie Kosar
If anything Bernie was under rated imo.
Posted on 12/21/12 at 2:25 pm to Dire Wolf
Rules and athletes, hell...the entire game was much different back then.
Posted on 12/21/12 at 4:28 pm to Jcorye1
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If he didn't win that game, he doesn't even sniff the HoF.
I'd say he's overrated
People keep arguing both those points -- both legit arguments, and maybe even correct. But the topic was supposed to be a more overrated QB than Joe Namath
Is the hatred for Namath simply because he went to Alabama?
Posted on 12/21/12 at 4:32 pm to RollTide1987
Joe Namath was a huge national name coming out of college. He was a made guy before he played down 1 in pro football. He had both leagues in a bidding war. So I ask you, how is it that he made pro football bigger than college? I'm not doubting that college ball was bigger, but it remained bigger through the next 3 decades. Added to the fact that the NFL markets the brand not the players. Tom Brady & Peyton Manning could go down on day 1 of next season and the NFL's ratings will rise. I'm confused because nothing about what you said makes any sense. Was Joe Namath the biggest star in pro football at a time? Yes. However, he was a star before he ever played in the pros and college football was more popular in the 70s, 80s & 90s. You're giving him credit for something he didn't do and didn't happen for another 30 years. If you had to associate one name with the unprecedented success of the NFL, it would be Tagliabue. Not rozelle, not davis, hunt or anyone else. If you had to pick a player that was instrumental in pushing the NFL past every other sport in America it would be Manning, but it wasn't any one player. Television more than anything was the reason the NFL exploded. The seeds were planted in the late 60s but once again it was another 30 years and joe Namath or no joe Namath it was going to happen anyway.
This post was edited on 12/21/12 at 4:41 pm
Posted on 12/21/12 at 4:41 pm to DelU249
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how is it that he made pro football bigger than college? I'm not doubting that college ball was bigger, but it remained bigger through the next 3 decades
Could we please stop this argument?
The NFL took over in the 1960s -- not only from CFB, but from from baseball as the country's most popular sport of all.
The colorful Namath contributed, but the NFL's rise was due to a combination of factors. Chiefly Pete Rozelle and his shrewd understanding of television, aided by the 1963 invention of the instant replay.
Posted on 12/21/12 at 4:44 pm to Kafka
We agree that it's TV, but I thinks tags was the one who really steered the NFL to its current level. That's not to diminish what PR did. I imagine pro football being very exciting in the late 60s though. Kind of a Monday night war type of thing. FTr I don't watch wrestling.
This post was edited on 12/21/12 at 4:47 pm
Posted on 12/21/12 at 4:45 pm to Dire Wolf
Terry Bradshaw is the only answer.
If he didn't have the greatest defense of all time behind him, he wouldn't have won shite. He is the only QB in NFL history to have not 1, but 3 games with a QB rating of 0. You have to try to suck that hard. He also had 5 seasons with 20 or more interceptions.
But he was clutch in the playoffs. I do give him credit for that.
If he didn't have the greatest defense of all time behind him, he wouldn't have won shite. He is the only QB in NFL history to have not 1, but 3 games with a QB rating of 0. You have to try to suck that hard. He also had 5 seasons with 20 or more interceptions.
But he was clutch in the playoffs. I do give him credit for that.
Posted on 12/21/12 at 4:48 pm to Dire Wolf
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He predicted one game then did coke with abunch mobsters= profit
Sounds like my kind of guy
Posted on 12/21/12 at 4:57 pm to Dire Wolf
As others have pointed out, Namath's stats are deceiving. It's easy to looks at his stats and call him overrated but he inaguralbly changed how the quarterback position was played. He opened the doors for the modern day gunslingers.
This post was edited on 12/21/12 at 4:58 pm
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