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re: When watching Barry Sanders' highlights, how does one justify a better RB than him?
Posted on 7/23/17 at 10:42 am to Paul Allen
Posted on 7/23/17 at 10:42 am to Paul Allen
Late in on this but have you ever seen the clip of Sanders running where the camera is focused just on his eyes.
Intensity at it's finest.
Intensity at it's finest.
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Posted on 7/23/17 at 11:38 am to mizzoubuckeyeiowa
TenYardTorrents FTW you can probably get damn near every nationally televised game from the 90s
Posted on 7/23/17 at 12:14 pm to Paul Allen
One of the biggest what ifs in sports is what Barry would have done with a competent offensive line.
He was a transcendent talent.
He was a transcendent talent.
Posted on 7/23/17 at 12:36 pm to Paul Allen
He is definitely the most electric "runner" I have ever seen. But for my money ...Walter Payton was the best "Running Back" I've seen. And he played on some pretty bad Bears teams and behind some bad olines. He really did everything...could have probably been a decent slot receiver. He blocked like a mutha...and ran with both power and finesse. The only weakness I saw in his game was carrying the ball like a loaf of bread..but he didn't fumble that much.
Posted on 7/23/17 at 1:49 pm to Genestealer55
I'm of a later generation than this but to me Adrian Peterson is the best running back I've ever seen in my life including his college years and if LF7 holds up in the league and produces, he'll likely be in that same class. Thing about AP is before this upcoming season and excluding the Favre experience, he's never played with a dominant pro quarterback in the modern passing-dominated era against modern defenses which are 10x more talented than they were in the 1970s bc of all the factors I've listed in this thread. He already holds the all-time single game rushing record and was roughly 9 yards away from breaking Dickerson's single season record. He is the roughest, most dominating runner this league has ever seen next to Jim Brown. If people were ordering running backs for their team, they're likely ordering an Adrian Peterson based off talent alone. The only negative he has is durability on a position that is never accommodating to durability with a few exceptions. He could do what Barry did but also what Jim Brown did. He's a current NFL legend.
This post was edited on 7/23/17 at 1:50 pm
Posted on 7/23/17 at 2:48 pm to ThePTExperience1969
And Barry is not???????
Posted on 7/23/17 at 2:54 pm to dukke v
Barry is not what?
Posted on 7/23/17 at 2:54 pm to Paul Allen
He wasn't only the greatest runner of all time he was the greatest non Qb offensive player of all time.
This post was edited on 7/23/17 at 2:55 pm
Posted on 7/23/17 at 3:13 pm to Madking
No intention to be petty but check that AP run against the Rams 5 man front in 2012 that was essentially an 80 yard TD where he split the angles and ran away from everyone and tell me that Barry is greater after watching that, mic dropped.
Posted on 7/23/17 at 3:22 pm to ThePTExperience1969
Please stop tarding up all the threads.
Posted on 7/23/17 at 3:24 pm to Madking
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He wasn't only the greatest runner of all time he was the greatest non Qb offensive player of all time.
No that's Jerry Rice
Posted on 7/23/17 at 3:38 pm to 1BamaRTR
Jim Brown
Posted on 7/23/17 at 3:52 pm to 1BamaRTR
Yes Rice would be right there with him. The difference is Rice played in a revolutionary offense with 2 HOF QBs on one of the greatest franchise runs of all time. Barry played for one of the worst franchises in the NFL had no Oline and in a run and shoot system that was a pass first offense. Not even the great Jim Brown could've done what Barry did in that offense there not a single running back ever who could've done that except Barry Sanders.
This post was edited on 7/23/17 at 3:59 pm
Posted on 7/23/17 at 3:54 pm to Genestealer55
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Walter Payton was the best "Running Back" I've seen.
When the running back was used as an extra O-lineman...and where running backs took long hand-offs as safety valves...and where running backs were required to run up the middle and yet run around the end with speed...and when running backs were expected to score from the 5-yard line - over-the-top...and where running backs were required to do some trick plays - like being quarterback, and where running backs were also TEs...
Yes...best all-around running back ever is probably Walter Payton...
If we are talking about best value for your money in terms of what you pay and what he gives you all over the field - then it's Payton.
Marcus Allen was also a do everything back...he was a legit receiver over the middle, was a quarterback, could block and couldn't be stopped from 5 yards out from scoring.
The NFL is about points. I have a problem with backs who can't punch it in and can't block. The Lions would take Barry out of the game inside 5 yards. TAKE THE SUPPOSED GOAT OUT OF THE GAME WHEN IT MATTERED MOST!
This post was edited on 7/23/17 at 3:56 pm
Posted on 7/23/17 at 4:01 pm to Madking
I know that's why he's Barry Sanders and all this other stuff is purely hypothetical but you can't make the argument he'd perform better in Dallas than he did in Detroit bc that'd require recontextualization of that entire time period which is impossible to do and hypothetical, you have to take players for the time period and context they were in and the facts. That's why I'm not screaming from the mountains arguing Jim Brown would unequivocally dominate today's NFL because we don't know and never will, to my opinion I'd opine his 22 year old self would be capable of performing today because he was an athletic freak of nature in the 1950s-60s compared to his competition with the primitive training and strength programs and dominated as such but I can't prove he would today because it logically can't happen.
Posted on 7/23/17 at 4:07 pm to ThePTExperience1969
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arguing Jim Brown would unequivocally dominate today's NFL because we don't know and never will,
Well he would, if it's still a bunch of white dudes out there on the D-line.
Posted on 7/23/17 at 4:33 pm to Madking
Were the Lions one of the worst franchises in the NFL when Barry played for them? IIRC they qualified for the playoffs a bunch during his career, won some NFC North division titles during that period, and advanced to the NFC title game during one of the most competitive years in NFL history. So what are you trying to spin with this narrative you're expressing?
Posted on 7/23/17 at 6:23 pm to ThePTExperience1969
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and advanced to the NFC title game during one of the most competitive years in NFL history
OMG you are stupid...................
Posted on 7/23/17 at 6:36 pm to dukke v
How so Skip Bayless?
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