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Posted on 7/13/10 at 3:13 pm to
Posted by Leauxgan
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Posted on 7/13/10 at 3:13 pm to
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Pitchfork isn't nearly as bad cokemachineglow when it comes to bashing anything that approaches popular. But the Onion's AV Club is the best site for indie rock and, well, anything pop culture related.


yeah the OAVC is great. they're like Gawker minus a ton of snark (there's still a little), with impeccable tastes. fyi anyone with a twitter account should follow the AV Club.
Posted by Baloo
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Posted on 7/13/10 at 3:59 pm to
Probably "I Bet You Look Good On the Dance Floor".

This is a band so good that with no major label, no marketing support, no nothing... just a website with their mp3s linked on it... that by the time they DID sign and release their debut album, it sold over 100,000 copies in its first week of release. It outsold every album on the top 20 that week combined, and it is the fastest selling debut ever, all on the quality of the material, not from some A&R department. It's really a remarkable acheivement.
Posted by Superior Pariah
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Posted on 7/13/10 at 5:31 pm to
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What is the very best song on that one? I will listen with a completely open mind.


Mardy Bum
Posted by iwyLSUiwy
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Posted on 7/13/10 at 5:38 pm to
We Were Promised Jetpacks... Been listening to them a little lately. Not Bad. Other than the rediculous band name. Its like bands are trying to out do each other on stupid names. Just keep it simple imo.
Posted by The Seaward
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Posted on 7/13/10 at 7:41 pm to
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Pitchfork isn't nearly as bad cokemachineglow when it comes to bashing anything that approaches popular. But the Onion's AV Club is the best site for indie rock and, well, anything pop culture related.


I agree about the AV Club being the best site for pop culture.

I generally don't care for cokemachineglow as well, but they (as long as the AV Club) do seem to like/praise Spencer Krug more than nearly any other site, so I do have to give them props for that. Pitchfork not listing Dragonslayer as one of their top 75 albums of '09 was shocking to me.
Posted by The Seaward
Baton Rouge
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Posted on 7/13/10 at 8:20 pm to
The Hold Steady will be at the Republic in New Orleans on Sept. 24.

LINK

Posted by Superior Pariah
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Posted on 7/13/10 at 8:35 pm to


I bet they rock live

ETA: And The Black Keys will be at the HoB 9/21. No way I can possibly miss that show
This post was edited on 7/13/10 at 8:37 pm
Posted by Baloo
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Posted on 7/13/10 at 9:55 pm to
Just saw the Hold Steady at the Granada in Dallas. They didn't play Hoodrat OR Killer Parties. They were still awesome.
Posted by PearlsLSU
NOLA
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Posted on 7/13/10 at 9:59 pm to
Black Keys NOLA HOB 9/21
Citizen Cope The Varsity 9/22
The Hold Steady The Republic 9/24


Damn
Posted by Tiger JJ
Member since Aug 2010
545 posts
Posted on 7/15/10 at 11:13 am to
Downtempo pop music?
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If the 24-hour news cycle is able to chew up stories and turn them into parodies of themselves over the course of a day, then it makes sense that music news could do something similar to pop trends. As soon as a new category is defined, its categorization is brazenly denounced, sometimes in the same article. So, for instance, once a term is used by a Jonas brother in casual conversation, that type of music is considered persona non grata and then cast aside as "so two weeks ago." Then everybody scrambles to find something new. People not caught up in this cycle just shake their heads with idle confusion.

A prime example of this vicious cycle is the case of downtempo pop music—that collection of styles and songs made up of slow, tranquilized beats, garish synths, and melodies that sound like they were filtered through the AM radio of an '84 Dodge Dart. With similarities to the slow, easy pace of Jamaican dub and ambient music, but with the hooks of '80s pop, it was bound for greatness. Albums by Neon Indian and Ariel Pink had garnered good reviews by Pitchfork and The Wire. They had numerous songs that might be considered hits in the world of independent music, from Memory Tapes' "Bicycle" to Neon Indian's "Deadbeat Summer", and Toro Y Moi's "1909".


LINK
Posted by Leauxgan
Brooklyn
Member since Nov 2005
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Posted on 7/15/10 at 11:22 am to
more popularly known as chillwave to genre parrots

hipsterrunoff.com has done an amazing job skewing various music blogs for hyping chillwave and then playing its own part in tearing it down by posting tweets by the jonas brothers, selena gomez, miley cyrus, etc. in praise of chillwave music.

although "Feel It All Around" by Washed Out is such a sweet summertime jam: LINK
Posted by Baloo
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Posted on 7/15/10 at 11:51 am to
My biggest complaint about indie rock, other than "quiet is the new loud", is the obsessive need to have thrity million sub genres. It's friggin' music. Arguing over whether something can properly described as garage rock or not makes my eyeballs bleed. I once made a sweeping statement about indie rock in general and asked, "where is today's Pavement?" and my friend responded by going on a 30 minute diatribe that Pavement cannot be properly classified as indie rock.

I could not give less of a crap. Indie rock is a convenient shorthand for "music that doesn't really get played on the radio". But the rise and fall of the millions of subgenres could not interest me less. A band is either good or they aren't. It doesn't matter if they are "true to their genre" or not.
Posted by Tiger JJ
Member since Aug 2010
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Posted on 7/15/10 at 11:55 am to
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more popularly known as chillwave to genre parrots


Posted by Superior Pariah
Member since Jun 2009
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Posted on 7/15/10 at 11:58 am to
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My biggest complaint about indie rock, other than "quiet is the new loud", is the obsessive need to have thrity million sub genres. It's friggin' music.


Agree 100%

Genres should only be used sparingly and in general terms. Someone who describes a band as "grindcore with a hint of new age fusion" or whatever the frick, is a complete tool.
Posted by Tiger JJ
Member since Aug 2010
545 posts
Posted on 7/15/10 at 12:02 pm to
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Genres should only be used sparingly and in general terms. Someone who describes a band as "grindcore with a hint of new age fusion" or whatever the frick, is a complete tool.


I actually just in general don't like the concept of written music criticism. It's basically impossible to capture the visceral nature of music via text. So why even try? You simply cannot make someone understand the quality of, say, a melody by just telling them about it. They have to hear it. IMO, that means that written criticism therefore turns into a snobbish affair of pretending to do the impossible.
Posted by Tiger JJ
Member since Aug 2010
545 posts
Posted on 7/15/10 at 12:06 pm to
And right on cue from The Onion:

quote:

Amid continued reports detailing the CIA's use of loud music to torture detainees at Guantánamo Bay, pop-culture elitists from across the country gathered in the nation's capital Monday to protest the uninspired song selections employed in the brutal treatment of inmates. "To remain silent about the abhorrent methods used to interrogate alleged enemy combatants would be a betrayal of the ideals we hold most dear," said New Yorker music critic Sasha Frere-Jones, a spokesperson for the loose coalition of music snobs. "I mean, 'Enter Sandman,' from Metallica's 1991 self-titled album? Really? Not to say there isn't some classic stuff on the torture playlist, but even my 12-year-old nephew would choose something a little more unexpected than Nine Inch Nails to shatter an utterly demoralized man's already tenuous grip on reality."

[link=(
https://www.theonion.com/articles/nations-music-snobs-protest-predictable-use-of-met,2855/)]Nation's Music Snobs Protest Predictable Use Of Metallica, Pantera To Torture Prisoners[/link]

Posted by Freauxzen
Washington
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Posted on 7/15/10 at 4:23 pm to
Big Boi's album. Yay or Nay?
Posted by Decatur
Member since Mar 2007
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Posted on 7/15/10 at 4:30 pm to
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And right on cue from The Onion:


This reminds me of one of my favorite Onion headlines of all time:

"Experimental Band Theoretically Good"
Posted by Tiger JJ
Member since Aug 2010
545 posts
Posted on 7/15/10 at 4:39 pm to
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Big Boi's album. Yay or Nay?


Is that the other half of Outkast? It's rap, so I assume it's terrible.
Posted by Leauxgan
Brooklyn
Member since Nov 2005
17324 posts
Posted on 7/15/10 at 5:04 pm to
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I could not give less of a crap. Indie rock is a convenient shorthand for "music that doesn't really get played on the radio". But the rise and fall of the millions of subgenres could not interest me less. A band is either good or they aren't. It doesn't matter if they are "true to their genre" or not.



While I mostly agree with you, that there is a pretension and occasional pointlessness in breaking everything down into sub-genre labels, I also think it's very helpful when you're trying to describe the sound of somebody/something to new ears. Mashing up portmanteaus and prefixes can sometimes be tiresome, i.e. 'bro, did u hear the new pre-post-macbookprocoreminimalistglitch album from Flying Lotus??'

But if you're trying to describe the Dirty Projectors for instance, you can't help but throw out 'afro-pop' as a specific shadeof their overall sound.

Anywho, again, hipsterrunoff/Carles has lampooned the shite out of this habit:



there are some gems in there.
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