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re: Breaking Bad S5E15 9/22 "Granite State"
Posted on 9/26/13 at 10:07 am to Chair
Posted on 9/26/13 at 10:07 am to Chair
quote:Not me. I'm convinced that the Rose interview establishes with near certainty that high quality Blue Sky is in play proving to Walt that Jesse is alive and cooking.
We are still discussing the meth?
quote:Agree. Perhaps building on the last advice Saul game him, Walt turns himself in (after clusterfing the NNs) and puts all the dirt on GM.
I just don't see them doing another DVD. The show is better than that.
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Posted on 9/26/13 at 10:09 am to Ace Midnight
quote:Amen.
What do you want? They duked it out with 6 guys, who got the drop on them, at that. They had a pistol and a shotgun against 6 guns, including rifles. They had no prospect of backup and 1 engine block for cover.
It's not Pickett's Charge, but it'll do until heroic comes along.
Posted on 9/26/13 at 10:26 am to LNCHBOX
quote:Don't disagree at all with that.
But it is reasonable for Walt to assume that Jesse would be killed well before months later. The Nazis didn'ts ay they were keepinghim alive to cook. They said they were keeping him alive to find out what he told Hank. Do you really disagree with that?
However (imo)Walt found out in the Rose interview that:
1. a product that Rose referred to as Walt's blue signature product was popping up with reports of it available as far away as Europe. Walt is smart and would reason (imo) that his signature product (blue) in America only might mean counterfeit blue. In Europe it could only mean (imo) high quality meth which could only be made by Jesse. Remember, Walt worked with Todd and had hopes but though Todd could become an able assistant with time. Todd is good at torture and killing but he's no chemist and he could never be able to do what Gayle couldn't do. Is Walt certain. Not possible. Certain enough to take action. Yes.
That reasoning alone adds to the damning of the NNs. The killed Hank, stole Walt's money and didn't keep their promise to kill Jesse. And to infuriate Walt's ego to the breaking point, they are using Jesse to make Walt's product. All just my opinion.
Posted on 9/26/13 at 10:35 am to LNCHBOX
quote:
Do contract killers collect before or after?
I'm not going to answer that on advice from my attorney, Saul Goodman.
Posted on 9/26/13 at 1:00 pm to Douboy
quote:
Correct on the part that it was also a combination of Walts recipe. However, the pre methlymine product was not blue.
I know that - I used that in my argument.
After thinking some more, I'll modify it - we don't "know" for certain Walt couldn't have made it blue with pseudo - because he modified the process for methlymine. He "didn't" make it blue until he acquired the methlymine AND customized his process to accomodate it.
That was also when his unreal levels of purity were realized. So, if he went back to pseudo, but kept the new process (and we all know that ain't Walt), maybe he gets it blue, maybe not. We don't know because it didn't happen.
This post was edited on 9/26/13 at 1:01 pm
Posted on 9/26/13 at 1:04 pm to Ace Midnight
quote:
That was also when his unreal levels of purity were realized. So, if he went back to pseudo
Wrong.
His original batch that Hank got his hands on tested at 99%.
Posted on 9/26/13 at 1:07 pm to Hulkklogan
quote:
His original batch that Hank got his hands on tested at 99%.
Didn't he get just a little bit more after Blue Sky?
(I could be wrong - I've only watched each episode once.)
Posted on 9/26/13 at 1:09 pm to Ace Midnight
Possibly.. I'm not sure. Ive been watching the marathon as I can but I'm at work so no volume.. but I caught that the first batch was 99% last night.
This post was edited on 9/26/13 at 1:10 pm
Posted on 9/26/13 at 1:40 pm to Hulkklogan
quote:
Wrong.
His original batch that Hank got his hands on tested at 99%.
If I'm recalling correctly the top purities so far are:
Walt 99.1%
Jesse 96.4% (In Mexico with the cartel)
Gale confesses to have only gotten 96% (3% is a big deal remember)
Todd 76%
Posted on 9/26/13 at 1:43 pm to chief420
Jesse should have tought Todd his chili pepper recipe
Posted on 9/26/13 at 1:58 pm to Mr. Misanthrope
quote:
I'm convinced that the Rose interview establishes with near certainty that high quality Blue Sky is in play proving to Walt that Jesse is alive and cooking.
I am not convinced of this. I think that in the many months that Walt has been gone that the nazis could have forced Jesse to teach them the cooking method. Therefore I think that Walt doesn't know that Jesse is alive now but he suspects that Jesse was alive for at least long enough to get Todd up to snuff with the cooking.
Posted on 9/26/13 at 10:31 pm to chryso
quote:
Therefore I think that Walt doesn't know that Jesse is alive now but he suspects that Jesse was alive for at least long enough to get Todd up to snuff with the cooking.
Valid point and possibility. As you noted, Blue Sky itself would not prove Jesse alive and might not even suggest the possibility to Walt.
I don't know if Walt is aware of Andrea's death, but if his reading of ABQ papers and obits made him aware, he might ask himself why only the girl was killed and not her child. He might reason that she was a civilian and killed only to keep Jesse on the reservation. That's a stretch without any support though.
Posted on 9/27/13 at 7:28 am to Chair
quote:
So what? The discussion here is who can make the pure, blue meth. Not whether or not the original was blue or not.
Because the color is relevant to the current episode. Do you even watch the show? The reason the color came up in this discussion is because the Rose interview notes BLUE METH. Then the discussion started about how it went from crystal clear to blue and who else could be making it blue. All seems relevant not to me Jack.
This post was edited on 9/27/13 at 7:29 am
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