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Posted on 5/12/21 at 9:31 am to
Posted by Stan Switek
Member since Apr 2017
474 posts
Posted on 5/12/21 at 9:31 am to
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I hate her and John’s character inconsistencies.


Who on that show isn't inconsistent. Rip has no problems with murder but reports a shot grizzly to fish & wildlife.

Jamie punches his sister then like a week later rushes to her with career advice.

Posted by Blue1976
Member since Mar 2022
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Posted on 3/28/22 at 8:03 pm to
I didn't like Beth until I found out why she hated Jamie. Imagine your brother had you sterilized without you knowing it. Of course you'd also have to imagine that you're a woman.
Posted by LSUBoo
Knoxville, TN
Member since Mar 2006
103712 posts
Posted on 3/28/22 at 8:38 pm to
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I hate Beth Dutton


I thought everyone hated Beth. Isn't that the main point of her writing?
Posted by LaLadyinTx
Cypress, TX
Member since Nov 2018
7163 posts
Posted on 3/29/22 at 8:53 am to
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I thought everyone hated Beth. Isn't that the main point of her writing?


Men hate Beth Dutton. Many women love her.
Posted by LSUBoo
Knoxville, TN
Member since Mar 2006
103712 posts
Posted on 3/29/22 at 8:54 am to
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Many women love her.


Psychos...
Posted by AUCom96
Alabama
Member since May 2020
6685 posts
Posted on 3/29/22 at 9:22 am to
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I didn't like Beth until I found out why she hated Jamie. Imagine your brother had you sterilized without you knowing it. Of course you'd also have to imagine that you're a woman.



Beth Dutton was a symbol of why I didn't like that show and am growing weary of modern entertainment.

Having something bad happen to you is regrettable and certainly explains erratic behavior, but it shouldn't be an all-encompassing excuse for being a monster. Breaking Bad at least made Walter White vulnerable and gave a lot of context on his descent into being what he was. With Beth, you're just introduced to an absolutely unlikeable nightmare of a person, and then they give you the context almost as an afterthought. Personally I'm just tired of the anti-hero routine and how far modern entertainment likes to push it. There really are no redeemable characters on that ranch, but Beth is easily the most unlikeable.
Posted by Funky Tide 8
Bayou Chico
Member since Feb 2009
56300 posts
Posted on 3/29/22 at 9:33 am to
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I didn't like Beth until I found out why she hated Jamie. Imagine your brother had you sterilized without you knowing it. Of course you'd also have to imagine that you're a woman.


Jamie was trying to help her out, and he was also young, and immature at the time. It wasn't some kind of malicious act by him. His intentions were to help her. That is to say, the level of hate that Beth has for Jamie far outweighs what he "did" to her. Hell, he likely did everyone a favor by sterilizing her.
Posted by MorbidTheClown
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2015
74386 posts
Posted on 3/29/22 at 9:53 am to
Jamie not telling her what was going to happen was a dick move.

The clinic not telling her was criminal.
Posted by LSUBoo
Knoxville, TN
Member since Mar 2006
103712 posts
Posted on 3/29/22 at 10:12 am to
Beth put herself in that situation first by getting knocked up and second by insisting on going to the Rez for the abortion because she was ashamed. Jamie fricked up, but Beth has never owned up to her mistakes leading up to it, so frick her more.
Posted by bricksandstones
Member since Nov 2015
1712 posts
Posted on 3/29/22 at 10:15 am to
Ya the clinic performing a hysterectomy on a teenage girl without any type of informed consent or parental involvement gets way overlooked and would absolutely, 1000% never happen in real life.
Posted by LSUBoo
Knoxville, TN
Member since Mar 2006
103712 posts
Posted on 3/29/22 at 10:19 am to
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Ya the clinic performing a hysterectomy on a teenage girl without any type of informed consent or parental involvement gets way overlooked and would absolutely, 1000% never happen in real life.


They made it seem as if Jamie was approving it, and I assume he was a legal adult at the time, but yeah extremely shaky and would never happen without the patient knowing what's going on. Jamie wasn't her legal guardian or anything.
Posted by slinger1317
Northshore
Member since Sep 2005
6924 posts
Posted on 3/29/22 at 10:42 am to
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Beth put herself in that situation first by getting knocked up and second by insisting on going to the Rez for the abortion because she was ashamed. Jamie fricked up, but Beth has never owned up to her mistakes leading up to it, so frick her more.


This x10000%

I always thought this incident was a shaky premise to justify Beth's hating Jamie. We are supposed to overlook the role Beth played in getting HERSELF pregnant?

Also, my memory may be bad but it seemed like Beth and Jamie got along fine in the first few seasons, then they turned Beth into the trailer park queen with her T-shirt worthy one liners.
Posted by MorbidTheClown
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2015
74386 posts
Posted on 3/29/22 at 10:55 am to
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it seemed like Beth and Jamie got along fine in the first few seasons


pretty sure in the very first episode jamie asks what she's doing there and she says something like "fixing shite that you fricked up"
Posted by LSUBoo
Knoxville, TN
Member since Mar 2006
103712 posts
Posted on 3/29/22 at 11:03 am to
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Also, my memory may be bad but it seemed like Beth and Jamie got along fine in the first few seasons, then they turned Beth into the trailer park queen with her T-shirt worthy one liners.


Nah, she always hated Jamie.
Posted by HoustonChick86
Catalina Wine Mixer
Member since Dec 2009
59223 posts
Posted on 3/29/22 at 12:08 pm to
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Men hate Beth Dutton. Many women love her.

Which women?

She is a miserable character. Other than loyalty to her father she doesn't have many redeeming qualities.
Posted by JDPndahizzy
JDP
Member since Nov 2013
6922 posts
Posted on 3/29/22 at 12:33 pm to
Jamie made the right decision... Have you seen her with children????
Posted by LordSaintly
Member since Dec 2005
42553 posts
Posted on 3/29/22 at 12:36 pm to
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Men hate Beth Dutton


I hate her because she isn't likeable.

Do you really admire how she treats her subordinates like crap? That's just one example.
Posted by LordSaintly
Member since Dec 2005
42553 posts
Posted on 3/29/22 at 12:39 pm to
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Also, my memory may be bad but it seemed like Beth and Jamie got along fine in the first few seasons


The first couple of seasons they were at BEST begrudgingly civil towards each other.
Posted by LordSaintly
Member since Dec 2005
42553 posts
Posted on 3/29/22 at 12:42 pm to
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Imagine your brother had you sterilized without you knowing it.


Imagine carrying a lifelong grudge into your 40s for decisions that were made by two stupid kids.
Posted by Funky Tide 8
Bayou Chico
Member since Feb 2009
56300 posts
Posted on 3/29/22 at 12:43 pm to
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I hate her because she isn't likeable.

Do you really admire how she treats her subordinates like crap? That's just one example.


Exactly. She is the kind of person that if you were to politely, and constructively correct her for a mistake or an error she'd almost certainly try to gaslight, deflect, and turn it around on you, and belittle you in the nastiest way possible, and then try and hold it against you for the rest of your life. That is literally her character. What at all is there to like about her?
This post was edited on 3/29/22 at 12:46 pm
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