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re: JD Salinger dead....
Posted on 1/28/10 at 11:36 pm to SlowFlowPro
Posted on 1/28/10 at 11:36 pm to SlowFlowPro
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only related to this book WHEN i was 13-16
when i read it again around 21 i hated holden caufield
If you related to him at one point in your life, you still relate to him at another point in life. Your perspective changes, but your past does not. Whether you hate him now or not doesn't change that fact. I think some posters are not using the term "relate" correctly.
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Posted on 1/29/10 at 6:06 am to ProjectP2294
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Also, it's a fave among serial killers.
so are the beatles catalog and the bible. point?
Posted on 1/29/10 at 7:46 am to Baloo
No one feels the loss more than me.
Posted on 1/29/10 at 8:11 am to lsufan9193969700
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If you related to him at one point in your life, you still relate to him at another point in life. Your perspective changes, but your past does not.
when i thought i should (not could) change everyone to convert from their stupid beliefs into mine, i didn't mind holden and his frustrations as a whiny bitch. however i grew up, and he's a reminder of misguided brilliance (however he was dumb, not brilliant)
holden represents a segment of society that i truly detest, and they're oft represented in the emo/goth culture
Posted on 1/29/10 at 8:33 am to Baloo
Holden Caulfield and Yossarian from Catch-22 are two of my favorite literary characters ever.
Posted on 1/29/10 at 8:34 am to SlowFlowPro
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when i thought i should (not could) change everyone to convert from their stupid beliefs into mine, i didn't mind holden and his frustrations as a whiny bitch. however i grew up, and he's a reminder of misguided brilliance (however he was dumb, not brilliant)
holden represents a segment of society that i truly detest, and they're oft represented in the emo/goth culture
nailed it
and the modern personification of this is the chronically disaffected "FML" crowd that hang out in the food court of the local mall
Posted on 1/29/10 at 8:43 am to supatigah
one thing from holden that stuck with me is a hatred of fake
HOW-EVA, not only was he fake, he didn't hate fakeness...he hated everything
characters of ghetto lore definitely influenced my hate of fakeness 1000% times more than holden (even though they did sell out too)
HOW-EVA, not only was he fake, he didn't hate fakeness...he hated everything
characters of ghetto lore definitely influenced my hate of fakeness 1000% times more than holden (even though they did sell out too)
Posted on 1/29/10 at 8:50 am to tigers
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I believe this explains Baloo's reverence for the man and the book.
Actually, I hate Catcher in the Rye. I think its an awful, shallow book. Holden Caufield is pretty much the archetype of Whiny Rich Kid Lit, which is perhaps my least favorite subgenre. Catcher in the Rye is at least well written, but it spawned hundreds, even thousnads, of terrible knockoffs which the world would be better off without.
I do, however, recognize he's an American icon. And I think his avoidance of fame is actually more interesting than a lot of his writings and ironically, made him more famous. William S Boroughs has been in movies, and he could probably have gone to any restaraunt and order a cheeseburger and not be bothered.
Posted on 1/29/10 at 9:14 am to Jay Quest
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Yossarian
I'll go ahead and throw in Luke Jackson (Cool Hand Luke) as another great literary figure.
Posted on 1/29/10 at 9:16 am to Baloo
I'm actually wondering how long it will be before all of Salinger's un-released material gets out.
Posted on 1/29/10 at 9:45 am to Meursault
I'm curious as well. I think he was far better as a writer of short stories. Nine Stories is pretty great.
Posted on 1/29/10 at 3:55 pm to Cash
I read it when I was 16. Still hated it/Holden.
Posted on 1/29/10 at 4:11 pm to Buckeye Fan 19
Aren't you supposed to hate him?
I know he's the main character... but I never read him as necessarily a protagonist...
I know he's the main character... but I never read him as necessarily a protagonist...
Posted on 1/29/10 at 4:40 pm to OBUDan
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Aren't you supposed to hate him?
Some people look(ed) up to him, not necessarily for what he did, but kind of what he stood for (as a rebel, in general). Others, while not really fans of his, understood what he was going through.
I just thought he was a huge crybaby drama-filled idiot. JMO.
Posted on 1/29/10 at 10:25 pm to Buckeye Fan 19
Just remember it's 10 dollars for a throw NOT FIVE. 
Posted on 1/29/10 at 10:31 pm to JPH77
Yea I was shocked 2. He was a great author. i remember reading Catcher in the Rye. I really liked that book!
Posted on 1/30/10 at 6:59 am to THATLSUBOY
The Holden Caulfield character was brilliantly written and was exactly what Salinger intended him to be. Its a great book to read when you're similar in age to Holden.
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