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re: LOST "Dr. Linus" S6.E7
Posted on 3/9/10 at 11:06 pm to joshnorris14
Posted on 3/9/10 at 11:06 pm to joshnorris14
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Austen is #51 which is crossed out.
Not on the light house
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Posted on 3/9/10 at 11:06 pm to theunknownknight
"At least nine names are not crossed out: Ford, Reyes, Shephard, Jarrah, Austen (though only on the lighthouse dial), Kwon (probably either Jin or Sun), Haasra , Grimwault, and Kysea."
LINK
LINK
Posted on 3/9/10 at 11:10 pm to joshnorris14
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"At least nine names are not crossed out: Ford, Reyes, Shephard, Jarrah, Austen (though only on the lighthouse dial), Kwon (probably either Jin or Sun), Haasra , Grimwault, and Kysea."
The problem with this is:
The numbers coinciding with the three unknowns are crossed out on the lighthouse but not in the cave. Kate is crossed out in the cave but not in the lighthouse.
Posted on 3/9/10 at 11:12 pm to davesdawgs
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Very interesting especially considering it was 108 Wallace that was part of the directions given to Hurley by Jacob to be used in the Lighthouse. However, what are you inferring regarding a hypothetical relationship between Magnus Hanso and Richard Wallace?
I just thought the connection to artificial life, i.e. the creation of life, was intriguing.
Posted on 3/9/10 at 11:14 pm to theunknownknight
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"At least nine names are not crossed out: Ford, Reyes, Shephard, Jarrah, Austen (though only on the lighthouse dial), Kwon (probably either Jin or Sun), Haasra , Grimwault, and Kysea."
The problem with this is:
The numbers coinciding with the three unknowns are crossed out on the lighthouse but not in the cave. Kate is crossed out in the cave but not in the lighthouse.
In the link that OML posted that listed questions answered by the writers and cast, one of the writers stated that the difference between the list of names that were crossed off in the cave vs the lighthouse were significant. I still think the cave was Jacob's list and and the Lighthouse might have been MIB's watch list. Also, because Flocke/MIB crossed out Locke's name, Locke still might be a candidate from Jacob's perspective.
This post was edited on 3/9/10 at 11:38 pm
Posted on 3/9/10 at 11:17 pm to davesdawgs
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In the link that OML
What page?
Posted on 3/9/10 at 11:21 pm to joshnorris14
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What page?
Looking for it now. hehee
Posted on 3/9/10 at 11:29 pm to davesdawgs
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What page?
Looking for it now. hehee
Found it. Here's the link to the question/answer session: LINK
Here is the link inside this thread where OML made the original post including the link: OML reference
Here is the particular question and answer that caught my attention:
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I was surprised/shocked Kate’s name was crossed out in the cave but then her name popped up on the dial in the lighthouse. What’s up with that?— Lyly Ford, France
The real question, says Lindelof, is: “What is the relationship between the lighthouse and the cave? There are several possibilities.”
Read more: LINK
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The answer to this question was also interesting:
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Who are the other unrecognizable names on Jacob’s wheel and in the cave? Names of friends and crew members perhaps?—Holly, via e-mail
Lindelof assures that “a tremendous amount of time and energy went into the name selection on both the (cave) wall and the wheel, and to give shout-outs to pals or crew members would somehow lessen all the time and energy that Jacob has apparently put in to choosing his candidates.” So we may or may not learn more about who those other names are.
Read more: LINK
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This post was edited on 3/9/10 at 11:33 pm
Posted on 3/9/10 at 11:30 pm to davesdawgs
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In the link that OML posted that listed questions answered by the writers and cast, one of the writers stated that the difference between the list of names that were crossed off in the cave vs the lighthouse were significant. I still think the cave was Jacob's list and and the Lighthouse might have been MIB's watch list.
This is kind of what I was thinking.
Posted on 3/9/10 at 11:37 pm to theunknownknight
This episode made me finally fully understand Ben's character. Last season we got to know Ben as a child, and then he split into 2. It illustrates that Ben isn't naturally evil, he just cares about things greatly and seeks to make them better. However if there is one thing Ben doesn't like it is not being appreciated for the great things he does, and he will take up for people who appreciate him and loathe those who don't. This is why he hated Jacob and eventually killed him is because Ben thought that Jacob thought he was worthless and didn't care at all about his suffering. It is because of this Ben becomes so unstable once the survivors reach the Island (they arrive just in time for Ben's cancer), despite the fact that he usually appeared calm and completely in control of the situation. Its much like how Locke pretended to be brave and strong, when deep down he really wasn't. It isn't nearly as obvious for Ben, but Ben is probably the most insecure person on the show and this insecurity has lead to most of his actions of "evil" throughout the show.
I really thought that all Ben was was power hungry and thats what made him do the vast majority of his acts during the course of the series. In reality, while power has a lot to do with it, it all came down to Ben being appreciated, something which I don't think the Ben in the original timeline ever got and no one has ever shown him. Ilana may have been the very first person to show him this. Remember when he flipped out when Sun and Jack were debating killing Ben and he snaps saying that they don't appreciate anything he has done for them. Alex really appreciated all the work Ben did, so Ben was loyal to her and stuck by her in the end, even if it was not to his own benefit. If Ben's work in life had been more appreciated by others, then I don't think he would have become the monster he became. I am just happy that Ben actually got redemption through this episode.
Also keep in mind that the Monster didn't bribe him exactly with just the Island, he said "I don't think that anyone could do a better job than you." The Monster is bribing Ben with flattery and appreciation.
I really thought that all Ben was was power hungry and thats what made him do the vast majority of his acts during the course of the series. In reality, while power has a lot to do with it, it all came down to Ben being appreciated, something which I don't think the Ben in the original timeline ever got and no one has ever shown him. Ilana may have been the very first person to show him this. Remember when he flipped out when Sun and Jack were debating killing Ben and he snaps saying that they don't appreciate anything he has done for them. Alex really appreciated all the work Ben did, so Ben was loyal to her and stuck by her in the end, even if it was not to his own benefit. If Ben's work in life had been more appreciated by others, then I don't think he would have become the monster he became. I am just happy that Ben actually got redemption through this episode.
Also keep in mind that the Monster didn't bribe him exactly with just the Island, he said "I don't think that anyone could do a better job than you." The Monster is bribing Ben with flattery and appreciation.
Posted on 3/9/10 at 11:43 pm to OMLandshark
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This episode made me finally fully understand Ben's character. Last season we got to know Ben as a child, and then he split into 2. It illustrates that Ben isn't naturally evil, he just cares about things greatly and seeks to make them better. However if there is one thing Ben doesn't like it is not being appreciated for the great things he does, and he will take up for people who appreciate him and loathe those who don't. This is why he hated Jacob and eventually killed him is because Ben thought that Jacob thought he was worthless and didn't care at all about his suffering. It is because of this Ben becomes so unstable once the survivors reach the Island (they arrive just in time for Ben's cancer), despite the fact that he usually appeared calm and completely in control of the situation. Its much like how Locke pretended to be brave and strong, when deep down he really wasn't. It isn't nearly as obvious for Ben, but Ben is probably the most insecure person on the show and this insecurity has lead to most of his actions of "evil" throughout the show.
I really thought that all Ben was was power hungry and thats what made him do the vast majority of his acts during the course of the series. In reality, while power has a lot to do with it, it all came down to Ben being appreciated, something which I don't think the Ben in the original timeline ever got and no one has ever shown him. Ilana may have been the very first person to show him this. Remember when he flipped out when Sun and Jack were debating killing Ben and he snaps saying that they don't appreciate anything he has done for them. Alex really appreciated all the work Ben did, so Ben was loyal to her and stuck by her in the end, even if it was not to his own benefit. If Ben's work in life had been more appreciated by others, then I don't think he would have become the monster he became. I am just happy that Ben actually got redemption through this episode.
Also keep in mind that the Monster didn't bribe him exactly with just the Island, he said "I don't think that anyone could do a better job than you." The Monster is bribing Ben with flattery and appreciation.
Agree. I think it can be summed up that Ben was seeking acceptance and love as we all do. Easy to understand considering his background. Ben's father on the island timeline was a complete loser and a-hole.
Posted on 3/9/10 at 11:46 pm to davesdawgs
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Agree. I think it can be summed up that Ben was seeking acceptance and love as we all do. Easy to understand considering his background. Ben's father on the island timeline was a complete loser and a-hole.
Yeah, if Ben had a loving mother, there is no way he would remotely turn out the way he did. Instead he grew up with a drunk alcoholic who beat the shite out of him and dogged him constantly. Not remembering Ben's birthday may be the single most insulting thing to Ben in his life, up until Jacob said "What about you?"
Posted on 3/10/10 at 12:15 am to theunknownknight
One more thought before I crash. We now know that Widmore arrived at the island in the sub. Can we infer that Widmore = the Wallace that Jacob referenced in his instructions to Hurley? Somehow I just can't see Widmore as a candidate or someone aligned with Jacob; Widmore seems the selfish power hungry type. However, perhaps Desmond is on board the submarine and I wonder about Penny also. Maybe Widmore is not as bad as I think but I still think that MIB is somehow planning on using Widmore to get off the island.
Posted on 3/10/10 at 12:18 am to davesdawgs
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One more thought before I crash. We now know that Widmore arrived at the island in the sub. Can we infer that Widmore = the Wallace that Jacob referenced in his instructions to Hurley? Somehow I just can't see Widmore as a candidate or someone aligned with Jacob; Widmore seems the selfish power hungry type. However, perhaps Desmond is on board the submarine and I wonder about Penny also. Maybe Widmore is not as bad as I think but I still think that MIB is somehow planning on using Widmore to get off the island.
We'll I don't know how much of a spoiler this is, but it's pretty well known Desmond is in season 6 and will be featured. It would be hard to feature him, the way they are doing the episodes now, without him being on the island at some point.
Posted on 3/10/10 at 12:51 am to PortCityTiger24
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Juliet, then thin claire. Kate is just average IMO.
I don't know what you are smoking. But I don't want it.
Posted on 3/10/10 at 12:59 am to Uncle Stu
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ok.....JACK, no longer a pussy.
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balls
big brass balls
I love a character that has nothing to live for
hells yeah.
Posted on 3/10/10 at 4:47 am to noonan
Alex is on the top of my free pass list with the current girl friend. It was good to see her in an episode.
Posted on 3/10/10 at 6:31 am to TotallyTigers
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if Widmore knew how dangerous the MiB is then he wouldn't want any part of helping him.
agreed
First, besides Widmore wearing fatigues, we have no idea if he was actually in the military. If anything, they have made bigger inferences that the Others have confiscated army uniforms, presumably to infiltrate them as they were testing nuclear bombs. Although not unheard of, it seems fairly unlikely that a young Australian man in the 50's would join the US army, and even less unlikely that Eloise Hawking, a young British woman in her early 20's would even be allowed to enlist, yet she too was wearing fatigues. It's a conclusion I dont think anyone should make.
Also, I doubt that Widmore is working for MIB. Being the leader of the Others for however long, he is supposed to be loyal to Jacob, and presumably so. It' s plausible he's a double agent, but nothing leans toward that, but it would not surprise me if Jacob in fact never actually spoke to Widmore, much like he never spoke to Ben. It seems even less likely that he somehow became aligned with MIB off island as he would have no communication. The only caveat to that theory is Abbadon, since I believe he is the MIB's equivalent to Jacob's Ricardus. And we know that Abbadon worked for Widmore. But, was it actually the other way around???
That being said, I think Widmore is more another pawn in MIB's elaborate plan, much the same way Locke and Ben were. Widmore's lust for power, his ego, desire for wealth, and moral ambiguity make him a perfect person to be unknowingly manipulated by MIB. I'll be very curious to see how he reacts when he discovers that Jacob is dead.
Posted on 3/10/10 at 6:33 am to davesdawgs
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We now know that Widmore arrived at the island in the sub. Can we infer that Widmore = the Wallace that Jacob referenced in his instructions to Hurley?
you just want me to beat you
you're the worst Lost fan ever
Posted on 3/10/10 at 6:51 am to Uncle Stu
I still do not have a clue which Kwon is a candidate but I do know that in the premiere the lady at the airport referred to sun as ms paik. It is not normal for a Korean to take the husbands name but originally darlton dd have her take the kwon name. I wonder if they are evenarried in the flashsideways or maybe sun is jins boss or something.
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