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Posted on 3/10/10 at 6:58 pm to
Posted by AstroTiger
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Posted on 3/10/10 at 6:58 pm to
I think if Sun or Jin is the one that replaces Jacob I will be every disappointed.
Posted by MSTiger33
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Posted on 3/10/10 at 7:21 pm to
Has anyone asked how and when Ben and his dad left the island? What the hell happened to DHARMA in the new timeline?
Posted by Lacour
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Posted on 3/10/10 at 7:33 pm to
The timeline is the same up to the detonation. They left when the island was evacuated.
Posted by Lacour
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Posted on 3/10/10 at 7:34 pm to
Has anyone seen the characters list for next week's episode? It looks like it is going to be quite good. Possibly very funny as well given it being Sawyer centric and he is going to have alt timeline interaction with one of our favorite smart asses.
Posted by Emilio7
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Posted on 3/10/10 at 7:56 pm to
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I think if Sun or Jin is the one that replaces Jacob I will be every disappointed.



The writers won't do that to us.
Posted by vorenus23
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Posted on 3/10/10 at 8:53 pm to
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The timeline is the same up to the detonation. They left when the island was evacuated.


doubt it. what are you basing this on?
Posted by Fun Bunch
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Posted on 3/10/10 at 9:22 pm to
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doubt it. what are you basing this on?


Logic?
Posted by vorenus23
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Posted on 3/10/10 at 9:26 pm to
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Logic?


what logic?
Posted by Lacour
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Posted on 3/10/10 at 9:45 pm to
The alt. timeline began when Juliet detonated the bomb. Everything that happened before still happened. Dharma evacuated before the bomb blew.

Hence, Ben and his father were on the island but left.

It's not that hard to follow.
Posted by vorenus23
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Posted on 3/10/10 at 10:05 pm to
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The alt. timeline began when Juliet detonated the bomb.


and what exactly did detonating the bomb do/change to create an alternate timeline?


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Hence, Ben and his father were on the island but left.


so...Ben's father is remorseful in the alternate timeline for leaving an island before it exploded and where his son had already been shot and kidnapped?
Posted by Antonio Moss
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Posted on 3/10/10 at 10:06 pm to
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Hence, Ben and his father were on the island but left.

It's not that hard to follow.


Yeah, except Ben and his father weren't together. If everything is the same up until the bomb detonated, then Ben is at the temple with Richard and Roger is still in the barracks. Last night, Roger specifically said that they left Dharma and wondered how their life would have been different if they stayed. That means to me that the willfully left the island and weren't forced off by an evacuation.

With this show, is it really hard to imagine the writers lead us to believe one thing (time split in 1977) and then go a completely different way (there was never one reality, its always been separate universes)?
This post was edited on 3/10/10 at 10:08 pm
Posted by Gugich22
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Posted on 3/10/10 at 10:08 pm to
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so...Ben's father is remorseful in the alternate timeline for leaving an island before it exploded and where his son had already been shot and kidnapped?




the thing that struck me the most is that Ben's father said to him "think about what you could have become."

with that being said, in the "real" timeline, ben's dad knew what he became when he grew up and he never accepted him...

in the alternate timeline, he was only left to ponder the question, where his imagination could run wild and he could see his son becoming a great figure on the island...instead, he is satisfied with his life off the island.
Posted by theunknownknight
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Posted on 3/10/10 at 10:26 pm to
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so...Ben's father is remorseful in the alternate timeline for leaving an island before it exploded and where his son had already been shot and kidnapped?


Ben was never shot and kidnapped in the flash sideways world.

Think about it. The Losties did that to him. Since they never landed, they never could never time jump to do those things.

The world has been effectively changed since Locke walked into the other's camp in the 1950's and if you want to push it, maybe there would be NO rope going down into the "well" caused by Sawyer time jumping with the rope in his hand after Locke fell and broke his leg. This rope could have lead Dharma to dig.
Posted by vorenus23
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Posted on 3/10/10 at 10:28 pm to
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the writers lead us to believe one thing (time split in 1977) and then go a completely different way


i could see how this could be a popular theory, but I never thought this was the case. I'm not even convinced that juliet detonated the bomb.
Posted by vorenus23
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Posted on 3/10/10 at 10:35 pm to
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Ben was never shot and kidnapped in the flash sideways world.

Think about it. The Losties did that to him. Since they never landed, they never could never time jump to do those things.


i realize this. I worded my question that way, so Lacour could see the holes in his theory. It was a rhetorical question.
Posted by theunknownknight
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Posted on 3/10/10 at 10:40 pm to
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i realize this. I worded my question that way, so Lacour could see the holes in his theory. It was a rhetorical question.


Gotcha, the thread is getting too long.
Posted by Joe
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Posted on 3/10/10 at 11:09 pm to
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Think about it. The Losties did that to him. Since they never landed, they never could never time jump to do those things.



Then how did they blow up the bomb which allegedly caused the split? They couldn't have....

I don't think the bomb caused the split.
Posted by Beastwood
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Posted on 3/10/10 at 11:12 pm to
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I'm not even convinced that juliet detonated the bomb.
Then how come lostpedia and several of the enhanced episodes have used the phrase "after the hydrogen bomb detonation"? Not saying it's out of the question, because nothing is in this show. Just saying if that's the case then the writers have been inconsistent, which doesn't happen.
This post was edited on 3/10/10 at 11:13 pm
Posted by Beastwood
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Posted on 3/10/10 at 11:14 pm to
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Then how did they blow up the bomb which allegedly caused the split?
Again, if the split starts in 1977 then everything before that still happened.

A tree with only 2 branches still has the same fricking trunk.
Posted by vorenus23
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Posted on 3/10/10 at 11:17 pm to
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enhanced episodes have used the phrase "after the hydrogen bomb detonation"?


if that's the case then I'm wrong. I haven't watched all the enhanced episodes. With the hatch still have been built when the losties return to present time, i didn't think the bomb did anything; possibly not even gone off.
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