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re: LOST "Dr. Linus" S6.E7
Posted on 3/8/10 at 3:17 pm to BhamTigah
Posted on 3/8/10 at 3:17 pm to BhamTigah
I'm thinking Richard's presence on the island may go back even farther than the Black Rock. He appears more likely to be of Egyptian heritage than that of most slaves on slave ships. Didn't they show the statue in the episode with Jacob and MIB talking on the beach? I'm guessing that Richard goes way back with some big group of Egyptians originally arriving on the island. Their means of transportation is the question.
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Posted on 3/8/10 at 3:20 pm to BhamTigah
they did call him Ricardus, that could be ancient Roman
Posted on 3/8/10 at 3:21 pm to Uncle Stu
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yada, yada, yada
You yada, yada, yada'ed over the best part...
Posted on 3/8/10 at 3:22 pm to BhamTigah
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Didn't they show the statue in the episode with Jacob and MIB talking on the beach?
Do we have any reference points for when that statue was destroyed?
Posted on 3/8/10 at 3:22 pm to BhamTigah
I agree that there may have been Egyptians on the island. The statue is of the Egyptian fertility goddess, and it must have been erected to appease the gods and stop women from dying during child birth.
Posted on 3/8/10 at 3:26 pm to Muppet
The greatest ending would be if we found out that it was some little kid playing with action figures the entire time.
i used to have some messed up stories when i was a kid and playing with action figures.
i used to have some messed up stories when i was a kid and playing with action figures.
Posted on 3/8/10 at 3:28 pm to Muppet
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it must have been erected to appease the gods and stop women from dying during child birth.
Child birth did not become a problem on the island until after the Incident I thought.
More food for thought - will we see the pregnancy problems ever explained?
Posted on 3/8/10 at 3:28 pm to The Eric
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The greatest ending would be if we found out that it was some little kid playing with action figures the entire time.
I would be really pissed off if this was how it ended.
Posted on 3/8/10 at 3:28 pm to Foot
quote:No ... I mentioned the bisk.
You yada, yada, yada'ed over the best part...
Posted on 3/8/10 at 3:28 pm to Muppet
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You yada, yada, yada'ed over the best part...
I mentioned the bisque
quote:ooooh...nice call
The statue is of the Egyptian fertility goddess, and it must have been erected to appease the gods and stop women from dying during child birth.
hadnt read that one yet 
Posted on 3/8/10 at 3:28 pm to Foot
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You yada, yada, yada'ed over the best part...
"No, I mentioned the bisque."
Posted on 3/8/10 at 3:30 pm to BamaFanInTigerland
Crap - apparently I don't know how to spell bisque 
Posted on 3/8/10 at 3:31 pm to Decatur
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Child birth did not become a problem on the island until after the Incident I thought.
Was that ever established or just assumed? I don't think those are typical effects of radiation... and how does that explain the increased sperm count? Logically I would say that if the chances of pregnancy are high and the females always die, it's an incentive for people not to reproduce and civilize the island.
Posted on 3/8/10 at 3:34 pm to Muppet
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Was that ever established or just assumed?
the only point of reference I can think of is Farraday
if Hawking and Widmore slapped nasties, where along the on-island/off-island did this occur?
Posted on 3/8/10 at 3:37 pm to Uncle Stu
I think they were already in a relationship in 1977 when the incident occurred. I'm wondering if Eloise had already left the island by the time Widmore was banished... she didn't seem to be around in that scene between him and Ben.
Posted on 3/8/10 at 3:41 pm to Muppet
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Was that ever established or just assumed?
I thought someone said it was related to the Incident. I do know that Ethan was the last baby born on the island (in 1977, shortly before the Incident).
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I don't think those are typical effects of radiation... and how does that explain the increased sperm count?
I think the problem was with healthy young women having the uteruses of 70 year-olds.
Posted on 3/8/10 at 3:44 pm to Decatur
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Pregnancies on a TimelineIt is important to note that evidence suggests a lack of pregnancy complications up to and during 1977.
We see Ethan Rom born on the island in July of 1977 without complications, an event that is seemingly ordinary to life on the island.
However, at some point after Ethan's birth, pregnancy issues plague the inhabitants of the Island, eventually leading to the recruitment of fertility expert Juliet Burke and her subsequent research on pregnant women on the island.
In "D.O.C.", Juliet states that if the mother conceived off-Island, they will most likely survive the pregnancy. However, if the baby was conceived on the Island, the mother will likely die before their third trimester, as a result of the mysterious issues surrounding the location.
According to Juliet, "The problem occurs somewhere during the second trimester, when the mother's immune system is triggered. The white blood cell count plummets. It's like the … immune system turns on the fetus." ("The Other Woman")
According to Juliet, "In about three weeks [approximately the end of Sun's first trimester], you'll be in an almost constant state of nausea. A week after that, you will experience shortness of breath that won't go away. A week after that, you will lose consciousness and slip into a coma. And then, you will die. And when your heart stops beating … so will the baby's. If you go [back to Locke's camp] … you will die. And your baby will never be born." ("Ji Yeon")
According to this report, once pregnancy complications begin to occur on the island, pregnant women that do not leave the island can expect to die somewhere after their 100th day of pregnancy. ("Ji Yeon")
This post was edited on 3/8/10 at 3:46 pm
Posted on 3/8/10 at 3:45 pm to Decatur
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I do know that Ethan was the last baby born on the island (in 1977, shortly before the Incident).
That is true..
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I think the problem was with healthy young women having the uteruses of 70 year-olds.
I know that radiation often causes sterility, but not some sort of weird thing where women become pregnant but can't handle the child birth. and it definitely doesn't increase sperm count. Maybe I'm just not that well-versed with hydrogen bombs.
Posted on 3/8/10 at 3:49 pm to TigerInBamaLand
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According to this report, once pregnancy complications begin to occur on the island, pregnant women that do not leave the island can expect to die somewhere after their 100th day of pregnancy. ("Ji Yeon")
Not the 108th day of pregnancy
:omg:
Posted on 3/8/10 at 3:49 pm to Muppet
quote:Same Link.
Fertility
There appears to be some evidence that, in 2001, women on the Island suffer from a form of degeneration of their reproductive organs.
In "Not in Portland", Richard Alpert showed Juliet a scan of a woman in her 20s, though they seemed more fitting of a woman in her 70s in terms of signs of reproductive capability.
Juliet was told that this would be one of the things she would investigate on the Island.
It has not been explicitly stated that this problem was solved by Juliet's research, or indeed even actually existed, but we know that during the tenure Juliet spent on the island, women were dying after becoming pregnant, suggesting that infertility was no longer an issue, if it ever was to begin with.
Island males, on the other hand, see their sperm counts multiply five times normal, so that each dose contains 300 to 400 million sperm. (Healthy normal sperm counts are 40 to 50 million per sample.) This is probably connected to the Island's healing properties.
I don't think that these problems are from the radiation from the bomb at the incident but from whatever weird shite happened with the timeline because of the incident. Not radiation injuries, weird island time-jumping stuff.
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