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re: Official Avengers thread
Posted on 5/6/12 at 7:06 pm to SlowFlowPro
Posted on 5/6/12 at 7:06 pm to SlowFlowPro
before this movie, I detested Hulk. I always viewed him as a humanoid version of Godzilla, no rhyme or reason to what he was doing, just running around tearing shite up. I always thought it was retarded.
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Posted on 5/6/12 at 7:08 pm to southernelite
The Hulk is a balancing act of control for Banner.
When he controls him, like in the final battle, the Hulk is the most powerful force for good in the universe.
When he can't control him, he is the most powerful rampaging force in the universe.
I have always lived the Hulk.
I was never an Avengers comic fan. I prefer the hero with a darkside, and anti-hero approach of the X-Men.
That said, Avengers shits all over all the X-Men movies. . .imho.
New class served a different purpose. I still don't think it told the story of how the X-Men were formed to any serious degree.
It seemed to be more involved in the history of Professor X's creating the X-Men, than the X-Men themselves.
Avengers does that. If Avengers was done the same way New Class was, the first hour would have been telling the story of Nick Fury, and what led him to decide to form the Avengers.
When he controls him, like in the final battle, the Hulk is the most powerful force for good in the universe.
When he can't control him, he is the most powerful rampaging force in the universe.
I have always lived the Hulk.
I was never an Avengers comic fan. I prefer the hero with a darkside, and anti-hero approach of the X-Men.
That said, Avengers shits all over all the X-Men movies. . .imho.
New class served a different purpose. I still don't think it told the story of how the X-Men were formed to any serious degree.
It seemed to be more involved in the history of Professor X's creating the X-Men, than the X-Men themselves.
Avengers does that. If Avengers was done the same way New Class was, the first hour would have been telling the story of Nick Fury, and what led him to decide to form the Avengers.
This post was edited on 5/6/12 at 7:12 pm
Posted on 5/6/12 at 7:08 pm to Freauxzen
quote:
Avengers did better at telling a story about a group of people.
i dunno the whole
xavier-magneto-mystique and the youngins was a story about a group, they just didn't end up united in the end
if people want to break avengers off into a different group-set than TDK or 1st Class, then that's ok. but what is its competition? can't be spider-man, b/c that was relatively serious, too
Posted on 5/6/12 at 7:10 pm to TheDarkestNight
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Because it is better than First Class.
because it didn't have enough corny 1-liners?
Posted on 5/6/12 at 7:11 pm to southernelite
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before this movie, I detested Hulk. I always viewed him as a humanoid version of Godzilla, no rhyme or reason to what he was doing, just running around tearing shite up. I always thought it was retarded.
as has been stated before, the hulk is one of those characters that changes with the wind. he's just a difficult character to keep consistent. he's either too powerful to create drama or too schitzo to do any good
Posted on 5/6/12 at 7:12 pm to southernelite
quote:
Universal owns the right to Spider-Man
Sony, not Universal.
Posted on 5/6/12 at 7:12 pm to SlowFlowPro
quote:none of them could really self-sustain.
xavier-magneto-mystique and the youngins was a story about a group, they just didn't end up united in the end
The entire group is needed to fight given they each possess a fairly specific skill set. The Avengers for the most part can hold their own by themselves, making the movies not really comparable.
Posted on 5/6/12 at 7:13 pm to TheDarkestNight
quote:Well, whatever, just glad he isn't in these movies.
Sony, not Universal.
Posted on 5/6/12 at 7:14 pm to SlowFlowPro
quote:That is the story of the Hulk, and what makes him such a great story.
he's either too powerful to create drama or too schitzo to do any good
I think Black Widow's reactions to Banner throughout were a great display of this conflict.
Posted on 5/6/12 at 7:20 pm to Roaad
quote:
That is the story of the Hulk, and what makes him such a great story.
over the series of a comic book it works a lot better than what you can do in a movie. it's hard to make hulk work in a 2 hour setting
EVEN if hulk turned, the movie just becomes who can get hulk in the end for the final battle
Posted on 5/6/12 at 7:25 pm to SlowFlowPro
quote:Norton did it just fine.
over the series of a comic book it works a lot better than what you can do in a movie.
Ruff signed on for 3 more movies, so I bet it is fleshed out rather well.
Posted on 5/6/12 at 7:44 pm to Roaad
Oh, I'd like to put in an official GIF request of Hulk flinging around Loki.
Posted on 5/6/12 at 7:46 pm to southernelite
quote:Didn't read, lol
Hulk flinging around Loki.
Posted on 5/6/12 at 8:01 pm to SlowFlowPro
quote:
my mindset sees him as a weak character, and always has
quote:
This stands out to me as the ultimate in defying the odds. Cap knew he was going to die. He had no defense. Thanos had godlike powers, with which he slaughtered every other superhero who had stood against him. But Cap still wouldn’t back down, no matter what the cost, because it was the right thing to do.
Posted on 5/6/12 at 8:03 pm to Freauxzen
quote:And it was a sentiment that affected Thanos later on.
This stands out to me as the ultimate in defying the odds. Cap knew he was going to die. He had no defense. Thanos had godlike powers, with which he slaughtered every other superhero who had stood against him. But Cap still wouldn’t back down, no matter what the cost, because it was the right thing to do.
Posted on 5/6/12 at 8:04 pm to Freauxzen
One line from the movie that I thought would get a ration of shite on the internets:
Cap: There's only one God, and he doesn't dress like that.
Cap: There's only one God, and he doesn't dress like that.
Posted on 5/6/12 at 8:12 pm to Roaad
quote:Think that is just a play on his era origin.
Cap: There's only one God, and he doesn't dress like that.
One thing I never got was why they call Thor a demi-god, he's not really a demi-god.
Posted on 5/6/12 at 8:14 pm to southernelite
quote:Not sure, either.
Thor a demi-god, he's not really a demi-god.
He is a full-on God, as far as I've known
Posted on 5/6/12 at 8:15 pm to southernelite
Because he's not like a full God. Like he can't act like the Christian God and just do whatever he wants. He does have limitations and he can be smacked around.
Posted on 5/6/12 at 8:19 pm to TheDarkestNight
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Because he's not like a full God. Like he can't act like the Christian God and just do whatever he wants. He does have limitations and he can be smacked around.
there are many polytheistic gods from antiquity that are less powerful than thor is portrayed, fwiw
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