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re: Official Avengers thread
Posted on 5/5/12 at 4:41 pm to SlowFlowPro
Posted on 5/5/12 at 4:41 pm to SlowFlowPro
quote:
the main weakness was the Randy Quaid-like retronuke on the ship, which made all the bad guys stop, like in ID4
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Posted on 5/5/12 at 4:42 pm to SlowFlowPro
quote:
but he didn't really develop into a leader. he kind of just jumped in with his "aw shucks" mentality and barked simplistic commands
this movie would have been a lot better without CA and with the banner/stark interplay with thor/hulk fricking shite up
Naaaa. He was the heart of the group too. He always has been.
quote:
stark seemed to be this, imho
??? Were we watching the same film. Stark handled the where's and why's of what was going on. The only scene where Stark was "leading" was telling Cap what to do about the engine.
Posted on 5/5/12 at 4:44 pm to TheDarkestNight
i'm not easily emotionally manipulated, i suppose
i'm also curious how we are crediting cap with all this strategy when stark had as much, if not more
i'm also curious how we are crediting cap with all this strategy when stark had as much, if not more
Posted on 5/5/12 at 4:45 pm to SlowFlowPro
I don't know if it's Chris Evans or the writing, but Cap is an incredibly dull character in these movies. They also didn't do a good job of differentiating his abilities from Hawkeye and Black Widow, which I think somebody else already mentioned. I think that Black Widow might be able to kick his arse if he didn't have the shield after watching that movie.
Posted on 5/5/12 at 4:45 pm to TheDarkestNight
Just got back from seeing this film and it was everything I wanted and expected...full on action, plenty of good one liners and great arse shots of Scar Jo. It also had nothing of what I didn't want to see, bunch of overly dramatic crying arse drama.
Oh btw, as bad as people are hating on Loki, the true purpose of the film was to establish the new villain that is looking forward to taking on the avengers.
Oh btw, as bad as people are hating on Loki, the true purpose of the film was to establish the new villain that is looking forward to taking on the avengers.
Posted on 5/5/12 at 4:49 pm to SlowFlowPro
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this movie would have been a lot better without CA
Wrong
quote:
the main weakness was the Randy Quaid-like retronuke on the ship
What the frick?
quote:
stark seemed to be this, imho
Wrong again. Did you even watch the movie? Are you just trying to be some kind of cool internet contrarian? If so stop, because you suck at it. Horribly.
Posted on 5/5/12 at 4:50 pm to MOJO mod
Thanos!
Posted on 5/5/12 at 4:53 pm to TulaneTigerFan
quote:
I don't know if it's Chris Evans or the writing, but Cap is an incredibly dull character in these movies. They also didn't do a good job of differentiating his abilities from Hawkeye and Black Widow, which I think somebody else already mentioned. I think that Black Widow might be able to kick his arse if he didn't have the shield after watching that movie.
He's not that exciting and his character is out of place in our world. As for Black Widow kicking his arse, not a chance, unless she used her secret weapon... her arse.
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Posted on 5/5/12 at 5:14 pm to SlowFlowPro
quote:I think you went into the movie with a "Avengers for beginners" mentality.
but he didn't really develop into a leader.
His leadership and ability had already been fleshed out.
quote:Loki's abject fear of Thor, the enemy's inability to ignore powerful targets, The enemy's complete lack of organization.
what weakness?
quote:lolwut?
stark seemed to be this, imho
Stark was just fly fast and shoot. Even he deferred to Rodgers.
Posted on 5/5/12 at 6:07 pm to TigerRad
quote:
had no problem getting up to take a piss twice
prostate problems, bro?
No, they serve daiquiris at The Grand in Lafayette.
Posted on 5/5/12 at 6:24 pm to TheDarkestNight
quote:
What the frick?
you didn't notice the ID4-like response?
fly a nuke up to hole
let it go to ship
nuke explodes, kills ship
all other enemies stop working
Posted on 5/5/12 at 6:26 pm to Roaad
quote:
I think you went into the movie with a "Avengers for beginners" mentality.
well it was the first avengers movie
quote:
Stark was just fly fast and shoot.
he came up with a variety of strategies to attack the big whale things
he led them into bottlenecks without commands from CA
he figured out how to stop all of the enemies himself
he figured out where the vortex was going to open, and directed everyone (esp banner) there
Posted on 5/5/12 at 6:35 pm to SlowFlowPro
Skrulls suck anyway
Posted on 5/5/12 at 6:35 pm to SlowFlowPro
quote:Only one worked.
he came up with a variety of strategies to attack the big whale things
Jonah
quote:That's what Cap told him to do, set them up for Hawkeye.
he led them into bottlenecks without commands from CA
quote:Individually? most, not all.
he figured out how to stop all of the enemies himself
Cap devised a strategy to fight the threat proper, not individual baddies.
quote:Because he realized he and Loki are equally egotists.
he figured out where the vortex was going to open
Posted on 5/5/12 at 6:36 pm to IceTiger
quote:suck at being not awesome.
Skrulls suck anyway
Posted on 5/5/12 at 6:39 pm to SlowFlowPro
quote:
you didn't notice the ID4-like response?
fly a nuke up to hole
let it go to ship
nuke explodes, kills ship
Ughh dude, not the same at all.
ID4 they had no choice but to do so. The guy actually went up into the ship's central weapon.
In this movie, they had to stop a nuke and said frick it, we'll use it to our advantage, go through the portal and frick them up without fighting. It was a shortcut, not the only option. It also wasn't their first option, but one that presented itself.
Posted on 5/5/12 at 6:41 pm to SlowFlowPro
quote:That is the Phantom Menace response.
you didn't notice the ID4-like response?
fly a nuke up to hole
let it go to ship
nuke explodes, kills ship
all other enemies stop working
In ID4, the other ships just lost their shields.
Posted on 5/5/12 at 7:14 pm to Roaad
quote:
That is the Phantom Menace response. In ID4, the other ships just lost their shields.
Beat me to it. SFP is confused in his argument.
Posted on 5/5/12 at 7:21 pm to SlowFlowPro
quote:
i'm not easily emotionally manipulated, i suppose
i'm also curious how we are crediting cap with all this strategy when stark had as much, if not more
Stark is more of a leader in the modern take of the Avengers.
Posted on 5/5/12 at 7:24 pm to theunknownknight
Cap brought the tactics and cooled tony down when necessary
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