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re: Spinoff: Rank the Harry Potter Books
Posted on 7/21/15 at 7:51 pm to WicKed WayZ
Posted on 7/21/15 at 7:51 pm to WicKed WayZ
As mentioned in the other thread, I watched the movies before the books. I do not believe that affected my book rankings though, only my movie rankings as I ranked Deathly hallows 2 really high
1. Goblet of Fire
2. Halfblood Prince
3. Sorcerer's Stone
4. Azkaban
5. Deathly Hallows
6. Chamber of Secrets
7. Order of the Phoenix (Longest book, nothing happens, Harry is such a bitch)
1. Goblet of Fire
2. Halfblood Prince
3. Sorcerer's Stone
4. Azkaban
5. Deathly Hallows
6. Chamber of Secrets
7. Order of the Phoenix (Longest book, nothing happens, Harry is such a bitch)
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Posted on 7/21/15 at 8:00 pm to sicboy
quote:Exactly. He was just a tough character to follow at the time. I get he was dealing with some shite, but frick. He was taking way too much out on Ron and Hermione. He was always pissed or fighting with one or the other.
He was snapping at Ron and Hermione constantly for no reason, and even he admitted it. I agree that he went through some crap, but he was moody from beginning to end in that book. It was a rough ride.
Posted on 7/21/15 at 8:00 pm to UncleBlazer
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He did try to see if Sirius was home and Kreacher lied to him.
Yeah, he really should have trusted Kreacher who wanted them all dead.
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Snape was the real frick up. Who cares if Umbridge knows you're with Dumbledore.
Umbridge would have disposed of Snape long before then if she thought he were loyal to Dumbledore.
Posted on 7/21/15 at 8:01 pm to ell_13
Well in all fairness, they were constantly bickering with each other, and I can see how that would wear on the other friend. But everything was magnified because of the connection.
Posted on 7/21/15 at 8:03 pm to UncleBlazer
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Who cares if Umbridge knows you're with Dumbledore.
It wasn't Umbridge who was the concern. It was Voldemort himself. That's the whole reason Dumbledore kept blowing Harry off. If Voldemort knew that their relationship was more than just headmaster/student, Voldemort would have used Harry to get to Dumbledore.
Snape informed the order as soon as he could.
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He did try to see if Sirius was home and Kreacher lied to him
He did it soooo reluctantly, though. Pouting the entire time, for the most part.
This post was edited on 7/21/15 at 8:05 pm
Posted on 7/21/15 at 8:05 pm to OMLandshark
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Umbridge would have disposed of Snape long before then if she thought he were loyal to Dumbledore.
What I'm saying is who cares if Umbridge finds out Snape is with Dumbledore if he responds to Harry. It's worth it to keep Harry from falling into Voldy's trap.
Posted on 7/21/15 at 8:08 pm to sicboy
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It wasn't Umbridge who was the concern. It was Voldemort himself. That's the whole reason Dumbledore kept blowing Harry off. If Voldemort knew that their relationship was more than just headmaster/student, Voldemort would have used Harry to get to Dumbledore.
I addressed this in my first post. But Dumbledore never explained this to Harry, so you can see why him seemingly not giving a flying frick about Harry for no reason would be upsetting to Harry.
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Snape informed the order as soon as he could.
Snape did the bare minimum. Par for the course for him.
This post was edited on 7/21/15 at 8:09 pm
Posted on 7/21/15 at 8:12 pm to UncleBlazer
quote:You do realize that Snape did more to protect Harry than anyone?
Snape did the bare minimum. Par for the course for him.
Posted on 7/21/15 at 8:15 pm to UncleBlazer
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But Dumbledore never explained this to Harry, so you can see why him seemingly not giving a flying frick about Harry for no reason would be upsetting to Harry.
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Snape did the bare minimum. Par for the course for him.
Did you read the last book? Every bit of Snapes behavior was explained, and the only thing that was a bit irrational is his automatic hatred for Harry because he looked like James (his mortal enemy), and his eyes were just like Lily's (the whole reason Snape took this on). Pretending to be a spy for Voldemort and being chummy with Harry wasn't going to work out all that well.
I mean, it's the overall consensus that Snape was one of the bravest ones in this story, but you seemed to miss that
Posted on 7/21/15 at 8:27 pm to sicboy
Yes, I read the last book. That doesn't excuse Snape being a total a-hole the whole series. Snape was a terrible person who only turned to Dumbledore because of selfish reasons(oh and after that little thing about telling Voldemort about the prophecy). Everything he ever did was out of his lust for Lily Evans.
How much information did he ACTUALLY get from being a spy? Didn't seem like much to me. The one event(7 potters) he orchestrated almost backfired before Harry was saved again by a magic wand.
Oh and he gave ZERO effort to actually teach Harry occulemncy. He couldn't put away his feelings and act like an man for 1 hour a week in order to teach Harry a skill that could help win the war.
How much information did he ACTUALLY get from being a spy? Didn't seem like much to me. The one event(7 potters) he orchestrated almost backfired before Harry was saved again by a magic wand.
Oh and he gave ZERO effort to actually teach Harry occulemncy. He couldn't put away his feelings and act like an man for 1 hour a week in order to teach Harry a skill that could help win the war.
This post was edited on 7/21/15 at 8:32 pm
Posted on 7/21/15 at 8:29 pm to ell_13
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You do realize that Snape did more to protect Harry than anyone?
No, I don't realize that because it's not true.
Posted on 7/21/15 at 8:31 pm to sicboy
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mean, it's the overall consensus that Snape was one of the bravest ones in this story, but you seemed to miss that ?
She even beat us over the head with it in the epilogue
Albus Severus, you were named after two Hogwarts headmasters, one was a Slytherin and he was the bravest man ive ever known
Im paraphrasing but you get the idea, lol
Posted on 7/21/15 at 8:34 pm to The Godfather
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She even beat us over the head with it in the epilogue
Albus Severus, you were named after two Hogwarts headmasters, one was a Slytherin and he was the bravest man ive ever known
Right, it's impossible to miss
I didn't miss anything. I just don't think he is the hero of the story like J.K tried to drill into our heads.
Posted on 7/21/15 at 8:37 pm to UncleBlazer
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How much information did he ACTUALLY get from being a spy? Didn't seem like much to me.
Well that's a matter of perception. Bad perception. He kept an eye on Quirrell in book one, kept Dumbledore informed about the Black Mark and Karkaroff in Goblet, was constantly relaying info to the Order in Phoenix, informed Dumbledore of what Malfoy was tasked to do which helped them conceive their plan in Prince, and there's that ONE event you refer to in Hallows.
And it wasn't like Harry was having an open mind in those lessons, either. There's no denying that he despised Harry, but he was honor bound to protect Lily's child. So regardless of what you think of his motives, he was probably the most important character in the Series outside of Harry and Dumbledore.
Posted on 7/21/15 at 8:38 pm to UncleBlazer
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You do realize that Snape did more to protect Harry than anyone?
No, I don't realize that because it's not true.
I'm convinced you read the Harry Potter for dummies series.
Posted on 7/21/15 at 8:43 pm to sicboy
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was constantly relaying info to the Order in Phoenix,
Like what info?
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And it wasn't like Harry was having an open mind in those lessons, either.
Snape is the adult and the professor. Harry is 15. 15.
You wanna know an emo little bitch? Try a grown arse man who can't get over a crush so he treats her son like dirt under his shoe every chance he gets.
Posted on 7/21/15 at 8:47 pm to sicboy
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I'm convinced you read the Harry Potter for dummies series.
Posted on 7/21/15 at 8:52 pm to UncleBlazer
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was constantly relaying info to the Order in Phoenix,
Like what info?
Jeez, does it need to be spelled out for you? The books are primarily from Harry's perspective, and there were meetings at Grimmauld place that the kids weren't allowed to sit in on. That's how they knew Voldemort was going for the prophecy.
Posted on 7/21/15 at 8:53 pm to UncleBlazer
You just don't understand the power his love for lily was.... Or his hatred for James. Yet everything he did was to protect Harry. The order knew Voldemorts whereabouts and what he was up to. They were able to head off the death eaters for the giants. They were likely able to save many lives thanks to Snape's info.
He saved Harry from quirrel. He did everything Dumbledore ever asked of him.
He did everything at great personal risk with the possibility of zero reward.
He saved Harry from quirrel. He did everything Dumbledore ever asked of him.
He did everything at great personal risk with the possibility of zero reward.
Posted on 7/21/15 at 9:00 pm to sicboy
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Jeez, does it need to be spelled out for you? The books are primarily from Harry's perspective, and there were meetings at Grimmauld place that the kids weren't allowed to sit in on. That's how they knew Voldemort was going for the prophecy.
I mean honestly what information could he have possibly given them? Besides death eaters killing innocent muggles, what was Voldemort actually doing all school year?
So he spied on Quirrell(he failed btw). He talked with Karkaroff about the dark mark(ultimately ended up being pointless). He gave the order so much info(about what, we don't know). He killed Dumbledore so Malfoy could stay alive and have a pure heart(wgaf).
The ONE thing that was important beyond all was telling Harry what must be done. And had Harry not come up to him as he lay dieing, he would have failed. Oh but he had a crush on Lily, sooooooo brave.
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